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Absolutely. 60+ posts over a weekend with lots of writing and no pictures? That shows the interest here, so there's no need to feel bad about livening up the Easter weekend a bit.
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Hmm.
But, as the originator has now posted that he/she believes the thread has strayed from the intended topic,
the original topic was a suggestion for a TV series or on You Tube
i did that
if SoS had a You Tube channel where people can see projects like the Caustic or a show of finished models then maybe it might draw in an audience
here is the caustic channel
the only thing i see as a problem is who is going to do such a thing? it took a lot of work to make the Caustic series.
first i designed the model
then produced a kit
built the model
learned the video software
shot the videos
edited the videos
i think over 10 years i got a whopping 265 views an interest in ship model building didn't go viral that's for sure! sooooooooo now what a bigger production? maybe get kit makers to do video instructions. hire a Hollywood director? maybe join up with the RC people and RC navel combat? static ship model building is well static! not very dynamic in any stretch of the imagination.
like it or not there is a lot of truth in what Bob Creek posted
But, as the originator has now posted that he/she believes the thread has strayed from the intended topic,
the original topic was a suggestion for a TV series or on You Tube
i did that
CAUSTIC gun boat
i built the Caustic about 6 years ago and because model builders thought the one big problem with kits were poor instructions. So i thought why not do a step by step video series. Here is that series totally amateur in nature but hey it gets the job done. Video one is an introduction to...
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if SoS had a You Tube channel where people can see projects like the Caustic or a show of finished models then maybe it might draw in an audience
here is the caustic channel
the only thing i see as a problem is who is going to do such a thing? it took a lot of work to make the Caustic series.
first i designed the model
then produced a kit
built the model
learned the video software
shot the videos
edited the videos
i think over 10 years i got a whopping 265 views an interest in ship model building didn't go viral that's for sure! sooooooooo now what a bigger production? maybe get kit makers to do video instructions. hire a Hollywood director? maybe join up with the RC people and RC navel combat? static ship model building is well static! not very dynamic in any stretch of the imagination.
like it or not there is a lot of truth in what Bob Creek posted
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talk about getting the public to pay attention just look at the crowd watching the combat
I don't know if you can see this outside of Sweden. The moose walk has been broadcast for a few years. Not much happens, sometimes some moose come. Swedish television, Svt, shows quite a few documentaries on somewhat odd subjects, after all, it has no advertising financiers to satisfy.
www.svtplay.se
Den stora älgvandringen
I flera tusen år har älgarna vandrat samma leder för att komma till sommarens rika betesmarker. For several thousand years the moose have walked the same path to get to the rich pastures of summer. Follow the walk live from Kullberg in the north of Sweden.
www.svtplay.se
Maybe we can get an AI Bob Ross who can put us to sleep talking about placing a happy little crosstree here or there
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Maybe we can get an AI Bob Ross who can put us to sleep talking about placing a happy little crosstree here or there
I always thought he was a robot. Mostly because of the hairstyle which was totally inhuman.
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I don't know if you can see this outside of Sweden. The moose walk has been broadcast for a few years. Not much happens, sometimes some moose come. Swedish television, Svt, shows quite a few documentaries on somewhat odd subjects, after all, it has no advertising financiers to satisfy.
Den stora älgvandringen
I flera tusen år har älgarna vandrat samma leder för att komma till sommarens rika betesmarker. For several thousand years the moose have walked the same path to get to the rich pastures of summer. Follow the walk live from Kullberg in the north of Sweden.
Well, I suppose it's cheap to make.
I lasted less than a minute, sorry. Far too exciting for me. Should be marked 'Adults Only'
The hair, the beard, the voice. So many superpowers to choose from…
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that is way beyond the scope of anyone here or in the hobby, sounds good but not practical.
You Tube is a great way to reach a much bigger audience but model ship videos can only be found if someone searches for them, so they already have an interest. No one is going to just run across any model ship videos by sheer chance, so pulling in people to the hobby by posting random videos i do not think will work.
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here is a channel by Bob Hunt but they are nothing like the Caustic series that actually show a step by step building of the model. What we have here are well done videos but they are only a 2 minute ad and show nothing on building anything. They are just product ads
you would need actual video build logs and those take a LOT! of work to produce, and you need them all on one channel
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you would need actual video build logs and those take a LOT! of work to produce, and you need them all on one channel
Robert Hunt
Lauck Street Shipyard is a division of LSS Enterprises Inc. It has been dedicated to helping modelers of all experience levels by providing top quality products and excellent customer service. We have developed a series of very detailed instructions that show how to build various popular model...
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bob Creek said
I think those worthy of belonging to such a group will find their way to it on their own, which in itself is part of the price of admission. Ship modeling isn't for everybody, and it shouldn't be.
There is a public awareness movement and deep pocket organizations who promote maritime history.
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so i agree with Bob anyone interested in this as a hobby or art form will find their way to us what we have to do is keep our house in order and present work of the master class to how a beginner can get started and not to worry about any public reach out promos
I think those worthy of belonging to such a group will find their way to it on their own, which in itself is part of the price of admission. Ship modeling isn't for everybody, and it shouldn't be.
There is a public awareness movement and deep pocket organizations who promote maritime history.
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so i agree with Bob anyone interested in this as a hobby or art form will find their way to us what we have to do is keep our house in order and present work of the master class to how a beginner can get started and not to worry about any public reach out promos
Hi Dave,
Given your stated aversion to the elitism model in other postings on other threads - I'm surprised to see you endorsing this view here. I find myself struggling to affirm much of what Mr. Cleek has to say about this subject.
an idea to reach more audiences
The first question that has to be answered is: "What's the point of reaching more audiences?" I hear this sentiment now and again and I always wonder what purpose there is to popularizing ship modeling. It only makes sense if you are trying to make money off of it and, God knows, there's a whole...
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Hi Dave,
Given your stated aversion to the elitism model in other postings on other threads - I'm surprised to see you endorsing this view here. I find myself struggling to affirm much of what Mr. Cleek has to say about this subject.
actually i do not see the elitism model in Bob's post the way i took it is like the movie said "build it and they will come" we do not have to reach out.
i have been into model ship building since the 1960s and heard many times model ship building is dead or about to be dead, we need to young bloods to keep it alive how can we get the attention of a younger crowd or the general public. Well i say it has been over 60 years, and the hobby is alive and well. so we are just fine and stable.
As bob suggested "anyone interested knows where to Find us and they will seek us out"
also there is a master class in this hobby who raise it to an art form no need to try and simplify it or turn it into a Hobby Lobby or toys are us just to gain more interest.
Given your stated aversion to the elitism model as i said those who close off others in the hobby and refuse to teach or pass on the art form unless your a member of their group or you have to pay for it. To me that is not a guild to support, grow or expand the hobby, that is a "business" to make money from it. I do support a master class of builders that is a different story.
Given your stated aversion to the elitism model in other postings on other threads - I'm surprised to see you endorsing this view here. I find myself struggling to affirm much of what Mr. Cleek has to say about this subject.
actually i do not see the elitism model in Bob's post the way i took it is like the movie said "build it and they will come" we do not have to reach out.
i have been into model ship building since the 1960s and heard many times model ship building is dead or about to be dead, we need to young bloods to keep it alive how can we get the attention of a younger crowd or the general public. Well i say it has been over 60 years, and the hobby is alive and well. so we are just fine and stable.
As bob suggested "anyone interested knows where to Find us and they will seek us out"
also there is a master class in this hobby who raise it to an art form no need to try and simplify it or turn it into a Hobby Lobby or toys are us just to gain more interest.
Given your stated aversion to the elitism model as i said those who close off others in the hobby and refuse to teach or pass on the art form unless your a member of their group or you have to pay for it. To me that is not a guild to support, grow or expand the hobby, that is a "business" to make money from it. I do support a master class of builders that is a different story.
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doing something like this documentary as a model ship hobby i doubt you will get a production company's interest. When trying to sell Hahn's library to a book dealer no one wanted it because they said it is such a small, specialized topic the collection would take up shelf space for a long time. before it is sold
so we are a special group of like minded people interested in maritime history and model building. Great steady as she goes
The National Maritime Historical Society has partnered with Voyage Digital Media to produce the documentary series Sails Over Ice and Seas: The Life and Times of the Schooner Ernestina-Morrissey.
Ernestina-Morrissey is America’s story. Now a National Historic Landmark owned by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and stewarded by the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, she first joined thousands of her sister ships as she was launched from the shores of Essex, Massachusetts in 1894.
The documentary’s four to six episodes will focus on distinct eras of her 126-year history — from her start as she fished and carried cargo out of Gloucester, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland (1894–1925); explored the Arctic regions with Captain Bob Bartlett (1926–1945); traversed the Atlantic as a Cape Verde packet trader bringing immigrants and cargo to and from the shores of America (1948–1968); and advanced educational/cultural programming and sail training for people of all ages (1982–present).
Sails Over Ice and Seas surpasses the story of any one ship, weaving themes in history that look at the big picture through the eyes of Ernestina-Morrissey and the countless people and places she encountered on her voyages. In her wake, Ernestina-Morrissey has left a diverse and indelible mark on America’s history and her future. For recent updates on the schooner and film series, please see
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so we are a special group of like minded people interested in maritime history and model building. Great steady as she goes
The National Maritime Historical Society has partnered with Voyage Digital Media to produce the documentary series Sails Over Ice and Seas: The Life and Times of the Schooner Ernestina-Morrissey.
Ernestina-Morrissey is America’s story. Now a National Historic Landmark owned by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and stewarded by the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, she first joined thousands of her sister ships as she was launched from the shores of Essex, Massachusetts in 1894.
The documentary’s four to six episodes will focus on distinct eras of her 126-year history — from her start as she fished and carried cargo out of Gloucester, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland (1894–1925); explored the Arctic regions with Captain Bob Bartlett (1926–1945); traversed the Atlantic as a Cape Verde packet trader bringing immigrants and cargo to and from the shores of America (1948–1968); and advanced educational/cultural programming and sail training for people of all ages (1982–present).
Sails Over Ice and Seas surpasses the story of any one ship, weaving themes in history that look at the big picture through the eyes of Ernestina-Morrissey and the countless people and places she encountered on her voyages. In her wake, Ernestina-Morrissey has left a diverse and indelible mark on America’s history and her future. For recent updates on the schooner and film series, please see
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Sails Over Ice and Seas: The Life and Times of the Schooner Ernestina-Morrissey Photo: Susan S. Bank Watch the documentary trailer >> The National Maritime Historical Society has partnered with…
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Simply put: Some of us are experienced modelers who are willing to share knowledge with others, but choose to leave promotion of the hobby to commercial interests. If a group of kit manufacturers and dealers considered that a TV show was worth the effort they would create one.
By the way: Even in egalitarian Minnesota there’s an elite activity. It’s called hockey!
Roger
By the way: Even in egalitarian Minnesota there’s an elite activity. It’s called hockey!
Roger
Hi Roger,
Hockey might be considered an elite sport in many circles, especially given the physical demands, competitive nature, and often high costs involved. But I don’t see model shipbuilding in the same light.
To me, ship modeling isn’t about elitism, it’s about dedication, curiosity, and the joy of craftsmanship. It’s open to anyone with the patience to learn and the passion to build, whether they’re working from a kit or designing everything from scratch. There’s no scoreboard or spotlight, just the quiet satisfaction of creating something meaningful.
So while hockey might be elite in the athletic or economic sense, ship modeling thrives on inclusivity, not exclusivity.