"Flying Cloud " by Mamoli - kit bash

Peter Gutterman said:
I don't know why this marvel of modern tech. began crossing out my writing.o_O
At Chestertown on the Chester River all the tall ships from MD/VA were there as well as an assortment of classic wooden vessels. Unbelievable gorgeous weather! The Washington Ship Model society, of which I am a member, had the exclusive responsibility of showing ship models in the Sultana workshop.
Oxford MD model boat show (also on the Chesapeake Bay eastern shore) Is this weekend. The only regional model show exclusively for watercraft, ships and boats. Usually heavy on Chesapeake craft, but still a lot of variety.
I am currently trying to come up with some acceptable ship's boats at scale. I have some aftermarket white metal ones as well as what came with the kit. Basically, all crap.
Right now, I'm trying to see if, with a bit of filing and carving, I can come up with four acceptable ones, or if I have to start from scratch. That and boat skids on the deck house, and whether or not to include deck house sky lights as pictured in Crothers. Plus, I need to make some patent ventilators. So, nothing in the way of progress to document in pictures of late. And yes, I took a break.
Thanks for asking!

Pete
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Pete,
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Peter Gutterman said:
Making boats: I spent a LOT of time carving, filing and sanding my collection of (soft) white metal 1:96 ship's boats into something usable as plug forms for my (long time on the shelf, first time use, thank heaven for U-Tube instruction videos!) vacuum form gizmo. Rob will recognize it for making dentures.
My first try was with the thin styrene sheet. Nice detail but a little flimsy. The next go was with sheet 2-3 times as thick. The trick is to let the heated sheet sag to the point before it overheats and falls out into a useless glob or catches fire. No disasters. Better to be lucky than good. DO NOT TAKE YOUR EYE OFF THE BALL! Or, in this case, the softening styrene sheet. As soon as you see uniform sag, push the plunger handle! Turn on the Vacuum first! Put the plug in place align and center it well, BEFORE turning on the heat!!! The plug will probably need to be raised with a small scrap glued underneath. make this smaller than the outer perimeter of the plug it is holding up.
I took extra pictures, more than necessary but you'll get the idea.
What to do next in the process of making boats still needs pondering. Do I fit out the interior of the one on davits? Do I try other options? Remains to be seen. Cautious

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Pete,
You did a very clean job on these vacuum formed boats. Your detailed explanation of your heat warming then vacuum forming process is textbook too. Thanks for sharing it.
On Glory of the Seas her boats stored upright had canvas covers with a makeshift tent arrangement to allow water to flow off. On his model ship world build. Rob gave a very detailed explanation of his simple but quite convincing process using masking tape, of all things.
 
I have a vacuum former as well, A different model. They work best when the item you are forming....the Plug...is somewhat porous, to allow the material to vacuum down tightly.

However your new plastic boats turned out well...if not for being slightly rounded, or less sharp as they could be. But no matter...they look great.

Glad you found a way to replicate your metal boats, into plastic boatsThumbs-Up

Rob
 
Peter Gutterman said:
Thanks for three very helpful, informative and encouraging posts. Thumbs-Up

Pete
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Pete,
Here's some views of Rob's boat covers with original scenes of them stored on ship. Rob can fill you on the details as to what materials he uses and how he finishes them. I know for a fact that the covers are originally masking tape, since he likes the miniature dimpled effect which mimics canvas. It's a fascinating process with amazingly realistic, durable results.

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Peter Gutterman said:
Making boats: I spent a LOT of time carving, filing and sanding my collection of (soft) white metal 1:96 ship's boats into something usable as plug forms for my (long time on the shelf, first time use, thank heaven for U-Tube instruction videos!) vacuum form gizmo. Rob will recognize it for making dentures.
My first try was with the thin styrene sheet. Nice detail but a little flimsy. The next go was with sheet 2-3 times as thick. The trick is to let the heated sheet sag to the point before it overheats and falls out into a useless glob or catches fire. No disasters. Better to be lucky than good. DO NOT TAKE YOUR EYE OFF THE BALL! Or, in this case, the softening styrene sheet. As soon as you see uniform sag, push the plunger handle! Turn on the Vacuum first! Put the plug in place align and center it well, BEFORE turning on the heat!!! The plug will probably need to be raised with a small scrap glued underneath. make this smaller than the outer perimeter of the plug it is holding up.
I took extra pictures, more than necessary but you'll get the idea.
What to do next in the process of making boats still needs pondering. Do I fit out the interior of the one on davits? Do I try other options? Remains to be seen. Cautious

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WOW!!! Pete! Is that some kind of industrial waffle iron? BTW, I haven't been getting alerts (I signed up for them). I'll unwatch and rewatch. Hopefully that will cure the problem. Love the boats!!!

Blessings.
Chuck
 
ClipperFan said:
Pete,
Anytime you want to make corrections to a prior post, this site gives you an open ability to do so. Look at the lower left side of your post. Next to the word "Report" there's a small downward facing arrow and 3 horizontal dots. Click on them. There's 2 options given. The lower one is to edit. Click on that and you can then make corrections. When your done, scroll to the bottom of your post and his save.View attachment 483930saw

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Or you can just find the edit button which should be at the bottom of any of your posts.
 
ClipperFan said:
Pete,
Here's some views of Rob's boat covers with original scenes of them stored on ship. Rob can fill you on the details as to what materials he uses and how he finishes them. I know for a fact that the covers are originally masking tape, since he likes the miniature dimpled effect which mimics canvas. It's a fascinating process with amazingly realistic, durable results.

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Wow! Thanks. All very helpful! The boat covers look just like the old photos!
 
The Gavel said:
WOW!!! Pete! Is that some kind of industrial waffle iron? BTW, I haven't been getting alerts (I signed up for them). I'll unwatch and rewatch. Hopefully that will cure the problem. Love the boats!!!

Blessings.
Chuck
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I hope you get the alerts. I look forward to your input and encouragement.
 
Peter Gutterman said:
I hope you get the alerts. I look forward to your input and encouragement.
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Yes! Unwatch - rewatch worked! I'm excited to see you work your magic on the masting and rigging! When I was checking in on things this afternoon, I went to page one and thought, WOW Pete has walked the long road with this build. You get better with every step my friend.

Blessings!
 
Dean62 said:
Thanks, however I built a Sopwith Camel and started a P-38. ;)
Daniel did a great job building the Wright Flyer.
I’m currently back to building my ship.
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Oops! I was bound to get some of these builds mixed up eventually. thanks for checking in. I'll check out the Sopwith. The WWI warbirds and the sticks and strings ships have a lot in common appeal for me.
 
The Gavel said:
Yes! Unwatch - rewatch worked! I'm excited to see you work your magic on the masting and rigging! When I was checking in on things this afternoon, I went to page one and thought, WOW Pete has walked the long road with this build. You get better with every step my friend.

Blessings!
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Thanks. I never count the hours. There's a lot of tide under the bridge.
I may go the dockyard model route.
 
The Gavel said:
Agreed! I'm particularly interested in the lacing of the covers. How was that done? I have my own secret reasons for wanting to know. The secret is that I have 4 1/96 scale boats to make ;) Also, I am now getting alerts on your build, Pete.
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The Gavel,
Rob gave a detailed how to step-by-step boat cover tutorial in his Glory of the Seas build log. Once I find it again, I'll share it with you here.
 
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