French war-ship Saint-Philippe 1693 - scale 1/72 - from Lemineur monograph [COMPLETED BUILD]

[CRI-CRI]

Dear boys,

I try to follow my built with a paper frame of head's knee :





I answer J-C Lemineur about a curiosity (I've never saw that before...) : the gammoning's notches sink under the floating line...

I shall tell you the response when received

 

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With vertical frames, it's possible to draw floating line as reference, and that's I preview :

 

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Here, as previewed, pics of a simulation of gammoning :

 

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Possible rectified gammoning's holes simulation :

 

[Uwek]

Hallo @CRI-CRI ,
please upload your photos directly in our forum, so the photos will be for ever safe and visible for the members.
In moment or sometimes not all posts are showing the photos.
There are only links to another forum........because of this, they also can not be viewed in full size.
Would be very good and many Thanks in advance

 

[CRI-CRI]

Test of direct picture : any difference of size... I use resized pictures for reduce my local storage

 

[Uwek]

Test of direct picture : any difference of size... I use resized pictures for reduce my local storage

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Much better - Many Thanks
you could also upload full size here and rezise them afterwards - just an idea

 

[CRI-CRI]

The full size is a smartphone storage of 12 Mo, into PC, I store only 691 x 389 JPEG, as screen edit

But, you're right, it's more secure to import the pics than to copy them from another URL

Two residual holes :

 

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End of afternoon small work :

 

[CRI-CRI]

I inform you that I decided to realize my first idea about gammoning of S-Philippe, I cannot follow the sinking
ropes of monograph... Here, I show a simulation of gammoning of bowsprit with rectified height of the holes :

 

[Uwek]

I inform you that I decided to realize my first idea about gammoning of S-Philippe, I cannot follow the sinking
ropes of monograph... Here, I show a simulation of gammoning of bowsprit with rectified height of the holes :

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Did you see the photos I made from the Le Saint Philippe I made during my visit in Rochefort some years ago?
here I had the chance to make some photos of the models built by Jose Tuset and Michel Magerotte

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Why do you think, that the gammoning was different than shown in the monograph?



I think, that due to the fact, that the structure was devided in two parts, the cutwater as prolongation of the keel (red arrow) and the upper part (green arrow) which is devided by some ornaments (blue arrow) -> only the red marked area had the structural strength to take over the forces from the bowsprit

Off course it is problematic or surprising, that the lowest point of the gammoning was under the waterline

 

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The first rail is almost finished, closer to a work of sculpture than of engraving :









Then, like pancakes, turn it, and start again the same work of cook, without burn out

 

[CRI-CRI]

I know all models of S-Philippe, including the two realizations exposed at Rochefort 2019

I think that the fore part of ship is too horizontal, too low, in fact (see for instance the fore part of contemporary ship, le Soleil Royal):



As I cannot redraw all this part, I prefer a minimalist solution, it's only an esthetic improvement

For historic reality, there never was any known detailled plan of this ship, it's a compilation of several sources, but not an unknown truth...

I can also copy the monograph, but it seems to me that this default would cause an anesthetic look

Low part of gammoning is also too important, the position of middle cross of it seems wrong

It's my opinion, I can be wrong...

 

[CRI-CRI]

Inspired by Hubac’s friendly suggestions from the SoS forum, I drafted this plan :



In fact, I put down the waterline 1/8" (3-4 mm), and I pull up the gammonings

The decorative frieze will be partly hidden, it's not really a masterpiece of Art

 

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Today work without gammoning holes (and not glued) :

 

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The two solutions without sinking of gammonings :

 

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A test of a simulated trailboard shock (not glued) :

 

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First frame in position, it will be a fat boy, miraculous, floating line is OK

 

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Following skeleton of ship :

 

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25 % of bulkheads cut (but not glued) :