Grants Xebec 1:60 (using Jabeque Cazador Occre1:60 kit) [COMPLETED BUILD]
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Hi Grant, once again super clean work, it looks great
Good morning. Thank you. Cheers Grant
Good morning Ken x 2. Thank you. There is a long way to go before it looks like a decent boat, however slowly getting there. I have been doing research into these boats, previously a shallop and then called a longboat later in the 18th century. I will post a summary of this however what I was amazed at is the size of these....Up to 54ft on the larger vessels and a loaded boat could weigh several tons
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Well done!!
Good morning. Thank you Mark and Paul. Cheers GrantStunning work Grant, your Xebec is certainly camera-friendly! Very nice indeed
Good morning. A little information on this ships boat. Grants summary : It was commonly used from the 15th to the mid 18th century when it was replaced by the Launch. The longboats were the largest of the ships boat measuring up to 54ft. They were used to transport supplies, arms, men and at times in combat.
Their function was to bring supplies mainly, water and food, which made these very heavy when loaded. (There have been estimates of several tons). The water, in casks or barrels, was stored in the bilges between the thwarts of the long boats.
Due to the size and weight these were towed behind the ships up to the mid 1700’s. Due to many of these being lost at sea especially in inclement weather, it became necessary to store the longboat on the deck. It made for engineering challenges especially with lifting and lowering these heavy loaded boats. A system of block and tackle secured to the fore and mainmast via Burton pendants was used with plenty manpower. These also made the decks especially on the Xebec design crowded and during conflict these were often lowered and towed behind the ship.
The long boat used oars and sails to manoeuvre. Generally a “cutter rig “ (not like the ship) with a gaf design was used for the sails and rigging. It would appear as if the Xebecs used a lanteen sail configuration on the boat as well.
The longboats were often used in battle either on their own or when their parent ship was engaged. In many cases these were armed with swivel canons or special slides for canon to be stowed when not in use.
The longboat of Le Requin is around 36ft and Cazador (well the Occre kit) 33ft.
Some pics :
Courtesy of google.
Cheers Grant
Their function was to bring supplies mainly, water and food, which made these very heavy when loaded. (There have been estimates of several tons). The water, in casks or barrels, was stored in the bilges between the thwarts of the long boats.
Due to the size and weight these were towed behind the ships up to the mid 1700’s. Due to many of these being lost at sea especially in inclement weather, it became necessary to store the longboat on the deck. It made for engineering challenges especially with lifting and lowering these heavy loaded boats. A system of block and tackle secured to the fore and mainmast via Burton pendants was used with plenty manpower. These also made the decks especially on the Xebec design crowded and during conflict these were often lowered and towed behind the ship.
The long boat used oars and sails to manoeuvre. Generally a “cutter rig “ (not like the ship) with a gaf design was used for the sails and rigging. It would appear as if the Xebecs used a lanteen sail configuration on the boat as well.
The longboats were often used in battle either on their own or when their parent ship was engaged. In many cases these were armed with swivel canons or special slides for canon to be stowed when not in use.
The longboat of Le Requin is around 36ft and Cazador (well the Occre kit) 33ft.
Some pics :
Courtesy of google.
Cheers Grant
Good morning
Rigging Mizzen mast : Firstly a big thank you for Peters (@Ptèr ) marvellous build log which has helped me understand this unusual rigging. I will mostly copy his interpretation of this ships rigging with one or two deviations along the way. Occre’s plan is too simplified and has been tossed
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Grant’s understanding of the Xebec Mizzen rigging.
1. Unlike most square riggers from 1750 the Xebec does not have shrouds, deadeyes etc but a configuration of stays.
2. On the Mizzen there are 2 stays with a block and tackle system to tension these.
3. The stays are secured to the strake on the bulkwark via toggles and the mast via a double rope binding.
Fore stay : There is a double 6mm block from the mast head and a single 6mm attach via the toggle system. I used a 0.8mm rope. The running line is a 0.6mm rope between these blocks
Aft stay : There is a single 6mm block from the mast head and a single 6mm via the toggle system. There is also a 10mm violin block via the middle toggle. The running line runs through these blocks.
I made my own toggles from toothpicks as Occre did not provide enough for a complete rigging rigging process :
The violin blocks where made from a 6mm block and 4mm block:
Some pics nothing is tied off:
I have chosen to use cotton rope (have to be careful of fluffing) to keep with my objective of this ship being a little “used” and not not too “modelly “ …….I’m not sure I’m getting there but worth the try
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Cheers Grant
Rigging Mizzen mast : Firstly a big thank you for Peters (@Ptèr ) marvellous build log which has helped me understand this unusual rigging. I will mostly copy his interpretation of this ships rigging with one or two deviations along the way. Occre’s plan is too simplified and has been tossed
.Grant’s understanding of the Xebec Mizzen rigging.
1. Unlike most square riggers from 1750 the Xebec does not have shrouds, deadeyes etc but a configuration of stays.
2. On the Mizzen there are 2 stays with a block and tackle system to tension these.
3. The stays are secured to the strake on the bulkwark via toggles and the mast via a double rope binding.
Fore stay : There is a double 6mm block from the mast head and a single 6mm attach via the toggle system. I used a 0.8mm rope. The running line is a 0.6mm rope between these blocks
Aft stay : There is a single 6mm block from the mast head and a single 6mm via the toggle system. There is also a 10mm violin block via the middle toggle. The running line runs through these blocks.
I made my own toggles from toothpicks as Occre did not provide enough for a complete rigging rigging process :
The violin blocks where made from a 6mm block and 4mm block:
Some pics nothing is tied off:
I have chosen to use cotton rope (have to be careful of fluffing) to keep with my objective of this ship being a little “used” and not not too “modelly “ …….I’m not sure I’m getting there but worth the try
.Cheers Grant
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I like that you started with the mizzen mast instead of the fore. The cotton rope looks great. Toggles are nicely done as wel. I don't know about your kit, but mine had some pewter / white metal toggles included that didn't do it for me. I like your's much better!
Keep in mind that the principle of the standing and running rigging stays the same for each mast. Only the Mizzen is a simplified version of the other two with less complexity.
You are doing a great job and fast as well. I'm so curious how she will look with sails.... who is with me?
Keep in mind that the principle of the standing and running rigging stays the same for each mast. Only the Mizzen is a simplified version of the other two with less complexity.
You are doing a great job and fast as well. I'm so curious how she will look with sails.... who is with me?
Very good looking rigging works - the rope looks great
Grant, hi buddy.Good morning
Rigging Mizzen mast : Firstly a big thank you for Peters (@Ptèr ) marvellous build log which has helped me understand this unusual rigging. I will mostly copy his interpretation of this ships rigging with one or two deviations along the way. Occre’s plan is too simplified and has been tossed
Grant’s understanding of the Xebec Mizzen rigging.
1. Unlike most square riggers from 1750 the Xebec does not have shrouds, deadeyes etc but a configuration of stays.
2. On the Mizzen there are 2 stays with a block and tackle system to tension these.
3. The stays are secured to the strake on the bulkwark via toggles and the mast via a double rope binding.
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Fore stay : There is a double 6mm block from the mast head and a single 6mm attach via the toggle system. I used a 0.8mm rope. The running line is a 0.6mm rope between these blocks
Aft stay : There is a single 6mm block from the mast head and a single 6mm via the toggle system. There is also a 10mm violin block via the middle toggle. The running line runs through these blocks.
I made my own toggles from toothpicks as Occre did not provide enough for a complete rigging rigging process :
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The violin blocks where made from a 6mm block and 4mm block:
View attachment 410582
Some pics nothing is tied off:
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I have chosen to use cotton rope (have to be careful of fluffing) to keep with my objective of this ship being a little “used” and not not too “modelly “ …….I’m not sure I’m getting there but worth the try
Cheers Grant
Have you done too much in wiring the tackle through the blocks? In my understanding it should be like this
And your running end first goes to the upper block, then to the lower one. As a result, the ropes cross
Wow! That's a lot of progress on the rigging! Impressive as always.
Wow, I don’t understand all the terminology but to my almost “normal again“ vision that rigging looks fantastic.
Jan
Jan
Hi Jan, what Sasha means, is how the violin block tackle is laid (see image below). Both images refer as the Violin tackle, but only the image on the right uses the violin (fiddle) blocks.
Grant,
As always - so impressive!! - PS: also such great blocks.
As always - so impressive!! - PS: also such great blocks.
as Jim showed the correct rope alignment, I would adjust and correct the tackles mentioned by Alexander
Good afternoon Mark. Baai dankie Mnr!!. Cheers GrantThis looks like a plan that is going to come together very well indeed, sterkte Grant
Good afternoon Peter. Thanks. This is why I decided to do the Mizzen first- definitely way less confusing than the other two masts. Again thanks for a brilliant log of your Xebec. I would have been lost without it. Sails…….….…I like that you started with the mizzen mast instead of the fore. The cotton rope looks great. Toggles are nicely done as wel. I don't know about your kit, but mine had some pewter / white metal toggles included that didn't do it for me. I like your's much better!
Keep in mind that the principle of the standing and running rigging stays the same for each mast. Only the Mizzen is a simplified version of the other two with less complexity.
You are doing a great job and fast as well. I'm so curious how she will look with sails.... who is with me?
. I will give it a go…. Cheers Grant