HMS Enterprise 1774 POF 1:48.

[GrantTyler]

Good morning from a beautiful spring Cape Town.

Whiskey throttle.
Ricochet Rabbit had some major whiskey throttle……. I got back from holiday and had this crazy idea to show the internals of the Knightheads by the bowsprit. Got the scale and scratch built these.

I got it wrong. On the British frigates the external bulkwark planks extend over the knighthead frames rather than fitting up against them…….

WIP however the knightheads are glued in never to be removed…….hmmmmm


The bowsprit bed still needs to be made so the gap between the stem will be sorted when Ricochet Rabbit decides to get there


I wrapped some very thin cotton cloth around the sprit to represent the tarred hemp which sealed the bowsprit to the knightheads .

The bowsprit was stained oak. The dowels are birch and I dipped them in black tea first so the wood is not super smooth. Then mixed oak stain with Matt poly. I will apply a second coat sometime…..

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Cheers Grant

 

[GrantTyler]

PS- I need to put RR in his cage and actually finish something . He is a nightmare.

 

[Maarten]

She is looking great Grant. If you just want to put back the planking over the knightshead you dont need to remove it.
Just remove a little with a chisel and fit small strips of plank over it


But who will notice it anyway.

 

[Peter Voogt]

Good morning from a beautiful spring Cape Town.

Whiskey throttle.
Ricochet Rabbit had some major whiskey throttle……. I got back from holiday and had this crazy idea to show the internals of the Knightheads by the bowsprit. Got the scale and scratch built these.

I got it wrong. On the British frigates the external bulkwark planks extend over the knighthead frames rather than fitting up against them…….

WIP however the knightheads are glued in never to be removed…….hmmmmm

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The bowsprit bed still needs to be made so the gap between the stem will be sorted when Ricochet Rabbit decides to get there
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I wrapped some very thin cotton cloth around the sprit to represent the tarred hemp which sealed the bowsprit to the knightheads .
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The bowsprit was stained oak. The dowels are birch and I dipped them in black tea first so the wood is not super smooth. Then mixed oak stain with Matt poly. I will apply a second coat sometime…..

Big picture
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Cheers Grant

That’s looking nice, Grant. And good to read that besides the Whiskey also the use of black tea is allowed on the build of your Enterprise. I just need to double-check which parts were eligible for being dipped in the whiskey ……..
Regards, Peter

 

[neilm]

Total CLASS !

 

[sevish]

wonderful work Grant ,
The ship look amazing!

Cheers
Guy

 

[AllanKP69]

On the British frigates the external bulkwark planks extend over the knighthead frames rather than fitting up against them

Hi Grant, I delight as always to follow your posts! I doubt that anyone would have noticed if you had not mentioned it. I do believe you are correct about the planking having looked several contemporary models and the painting below by Jposeph Marshall.

Something I never noticed before and really has no bearing on the Enterprise, but maybe interesting for you and others as well. Looking at the 24 July 1776 framing plans for Medea (28) 1778 and Crescent (28) 1779, there are no knight heads. Based on the Marshall painting the knightheads were obviously present on Enterprise as you show them, but it seems the later ships do not have them. Again this has nothing to do with Enterprise, but thought it was interesting for similar frigates only a few years later.

Allan

 

[Steef66]

You shouldn't mentioned those bulwarks and knightheads.
Everytime I look to your ship from now one, I think:" It is so beautiful and well build."

But then I look to the bow..........because I know.......I didn't, if you didn't mentioned it.......but now I do.........

 

[dockattner]

Whiskey throttle

new one for me

 

[Paul132]

Good morning from a beautiful spring Cape Town.

Whiskey throttle.
Ricochet Rabbit had some major whiskey throttle……. I got back from holiday and had this crazy idea to show the internals of the Knightheads by the bowsprit. Got the scale and scratch built these.

I got it wrong. On the British frigates the external bulkwark planks extend over the knighthead frames rather than fitting up against them…….

WIP however the knightheads are glued in never to be removed…….hmmmmm

View attachment 646901
The bowsprit bed still needs to be made so the gap between the stem will be sorted when Ricochet Rabbit decides to get there
View attachment 646900
View attachment 646902
I wrapped some very thin cotton cloth around the sprit to represent the tarred hemp which sealed the bowsprit to the knightheads .
View attachment 646903
The bowsprit was stained oak. The dowels are birch and I dipped them in black tea first so the wood is not super smooth. Then mixed oak stain with Matt poly. I will apply a second coat sometime…..

Big picture
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Cheers Grant

Beautiful!!

 

[DomCee]

Good morning from a beautiful spring Cape Town.

Whiskey throttle.
Ricochet Rabbit had some major whiskey throttle……. I got back from holiday and had this crazy idea to show the internals of the Knightheads by the bowsprit. Got the scale and scratch built these.

I got it wrong. On the British frigates the external bulkwark planks extend over the knighthead frames rather than fitting up against them…….

WIP however the knightheads are glued in never to be removed…….hmmmmm

View attachment 646901
The bowsprit bed still needs to be made so the gap between the stem will be sorted when Ricochet Rabbit decides to get there
View attachment 646900
View attachment 646902
I wrapped some very thin cotton cloth around the sprit to represent the tarred hemp which sealed the bowsprit to the knightheads .
View attachment 646903
The bowsprit was stained oak. The dowels are birch and I dipped them in black tea first so the wood is not super smooth. Then mixed oak stain with Matt poly. I will apply a second coat sometime…..

Big picture
View attachment 646904
Cheers Grant

Just adding these small details make a lot of difference! Very nice work!

Dom

 

[Masters Mate]

Hi Grant, I delight as always to follow your posts! I doubt that anyone would have noticed if you had not mentioned it. I do believe you are correct about the planking having looked several contemporary models and the painting below by Jposeph Marshall.

Something I never noticed before and really has no bearing on the Enterprise, but maybe interesting for you and others as well. Looking at the 24 July 1776 framing plans for Medea (28) 1778 and Crescent (28) 1779, there are no knight heads. Based on the Marshall painting the knightheads were obviously present on Enterprise as you show them, but it seems the later ships do not have them. Again this has nothing to do with Enterprise, but thought it was interesting for similar frigates only a few years later.

Allan
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I don't want to hijack the thread, Allan, but Medea (1778) definitely did have knight heads, as can be seen on this contemporary model made by the ship builder, Hillhouse, and now stored in the Bristol museum.

 

[AllanKP69]

You may be right, thanks for posting the photo. I may be completely wrong, but they look like heads rather than knightheads. The picture below is another example that shows both heads and knightheads, HMS Bristol. It may just be my old eyes, but I do not see any knightheads in the photo of the Medea model.
Allan

 

[GrantTyler]

She is looking great Grant. If you just want to put back the planking over the knighthead you don't need to remove it.
Just remove a little with a chisel and fit small strips of plank over it


But who will notice it anyway.

Good morning Maarten. Thank you. I do want these exposed, however your plan is a good one to shape them to look a more accurate fit.

That’s looking nice, Grant. And good to read that besides the Whiskey also the use of black tea is allowed on the build of your Enterprise. I just need to double-check which parts were eligible for being dipped in the whiskey ……..
Regards, Peter

Thanks Peter . Whiskey throttle has nothing to do with Whiskey in a bottle. See my response to Paul. Never have I tried to dip parts in whiskey. This may work really well........

Total CLASS !

Thank you kindly Neil

wonderful work Grant ,
The ship look amazing!

Cheers
Guy

Thank you very much Guy. Much appreciated.

Hi Grant, I delight as always to follow your posts! I doubt that anyone would have noticed if you had not mentioned it. I do believe you are correct about the planking having looked several contemporary models and the painting below by Jposeph Marshall.

Something I never noticed before and really has no bearing on the Enterprise, but maybe interesting for you and others as well. Looking at the 24 July 1776 framing plans for Medea (28) 1778 and Crescent (28) 1779, there are no knight heads. Based on the Marshall painting the knightheads were obviously present on Enterprise as you show them, but it seems the later ships do not have them. Again this has nothing to do with Enterprise, but thought it was interesting for similar frigates only a few years later.

Allan
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Hi Allan. I always enjoy your feedback-thanks. I have noticed with my limited research that this frigate class had many changes in a short period of time. Anyway my Enterprise has Knightheads on which I will do a few mods to appear more accurate.

You shouldn't mentioned those bulwarks and knightheads.
Everytime I look to your ship from now one, I think:" It is so beautiful and well build."

But then I look to the bow..........because I know.......I didn't, if you didn't mentioned it.......but now I do.........

Stephan you have reminded me of this a few times.......I never learn. Thank you for the compliment.

new one for me

Good morning Paul. It is a term used by motocross and dirtbike riders. Basically means an unintentional grab of way too much throttle which does not end well.......pretty much like my Knightheads.

Beautiful!!

Thank you very much Paul

Just adding these small details make a lot of difference! Very nice work!

Dom

Thanks Dom

I don't want to hijack the thread, Allan, but Medea (1778) definitely did have knight heads, as can be seen on this contemporary model made by the ship builder, Hillhouse, and now stored in the Bristol museum.
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Thanks for posting this Ian. This is pretty much the look I am trying to get with my Frigate. I am super happy to see the edge railing on the cap rails as I was questioning this approach.

Cheers Grant

 

[Daniel20]

Once again playing catch up Grant, you have really captured the look of old-world charm in your model.

 

[AllanKP69]

Hi Allan. I always enjoy your feedback-thanks. I have noticed with my limited research that this frigate class had many changes in a short period of time. Anyway my Enterprise has Knightheads on which I will do a few mods to appear more accurate.

Hi Grant,
She no doubt had knightheads and you are right about the changes on other ships. I was just surprised that they seemed to disappear on similar ship AFTER she was built. Heck, there are countless variations in drawings, contracts, models and the actual ships from shipyard to shipyard at the same time or very short spans of time. The only way to know 100% for sure is with a Waback machine, but I cannot find Mr. Peabody and Sherman!
Allan

 

[Steef66]

Hi Grant,
She no doubt had knightheads and you are right about the changes on other ships. I was just surprised that they seemed to disappear on similar ship AFTER she was built. Heck, there are countless variations in drawings, contracts, models and the actual ships from shipyard to shipyard at the same time or very short spans of time. The only way to know 100% for sure is with a Waback machine, but I cannot find Mr. Peabody and Sherman!
Allan
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Just contact prof. Barabas, he can send you to eveytime you want.

 

[AllanKP69]

Stephan,
Can you please post the professor's link or PM me his contact information?


PS, sorry to go off track Grant.
Allan

 

[GrantTyler]

Once again playing catch up Grant, you have really captured the look of old-world charm in your model.

Thanks Daniel. I am reasonably happy with my look and feel. I must just stop going full throttle and go back and do all the little details which are monotonous.....canon rigging, treenails, scraping, sanding etc etc. Cheers Grant

 

[AllanKP69]

little details which are monotonous.....canon rigging, treenails, scraping, sanding etc etc.

Think of them as therapeutic. It will help keep you sane.