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HMS Enterprize 1774 by arban007

AnobiumPunctatum said:
Really wonderful. I like your detailed explanations. Thanks for sharing
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Thank you so much for liking my production process! I hope this process is helpful to you, and I sincerely welcome your valuable suggestions for future projects!
 
Having seen your Pegasus, I can't get your interest in a kit, even a magnificient one, like this. Nice job as usual, btw. Cheers. Alberto
 
I have never seen better framing. Having the reduced scantlings for both sided and moulded dimensions of the higher futtocks is great to see. Well done. Sorry to ask again, but will the interior be built as she was as a fighting ship or when they held men kidnapped by the press gangs before being forced onto other ships? It was gutted and rebuilt and had no armament after being decommissioned in 1784 so an interesting choice for the model builder. Having no cannon would make the model much more simple.:)

Allan
 
AllanKP69 said:
I have never seen better framing. Having the reduced scantlings for both sided and moulded dimensions of the higher futtocks is great to see. Well done. Sorry to ask again, but will the interior be built as she was as a fighting ship or when they held men kidnapped by the press gangs before being forced onto other ships? It was gutted and rebuilt and had no armament after being decommissioned in 1784 so an interesting choice for the model builder. Having no cannon would make the model much more simple.:)

Allan
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First of all, thank you for your kind words! Indeed, this is a very excellent model kit! Secondly, I’ve communicated with the designer, and this ship is designed based on the original warship configuration!
 
arban007 said:
Secondly, I’ve communicated with the designer, and this ship is designed based on the original warship configuration!
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Thanks Arban
The reason I asked is because the drawings you show in your initial post show her after she was stripped and reconfigured as a receiving ship for pressed men. You can see the description at the top of the drawing explaining this is how she looked when converted from a fighting ship to a receiving ship. The last picture below is what she looked like when a fighting ship, very different.
Allan
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RMG describes the drawing you posted as follows:
Plan showing the inboard profile plan for Enterprize (1774), a 28-gun, Sixth Rate Frigate, as converted and fitted to a Receiving Ship, to be moored by the Tower of London.
Notice that even the mast steps, shot locker, steering wheel and gun ports on the quarter deck were removed.. A platform between stations 12 and F was installed that did not exist when she was a fighting ship. RMG dates the drawing you posted as 1787, 3 years after she was decommissioned and was taken out of armed service.
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Below is the design as a fighting ship. RMG dates this drawing as circa 1771-1776
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AllanKP69 said:
Thanks Arban
The reason I asked is because the drawings you show in your initial post show her after she was stripped and reconfigured as a receiving ship for pressed men. You can see the description at the top of the drawing explaining this is how she looked when converted from a fighting ship to a receiving ship. The last picture below is what she looked like when a fighting ship, very different.
Allan
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RMG describes the drawing you posted as follows:
Plan showing the inboard profile plan for Enterprize (1774), a 28-gun, Sixth Rate Frigate, as converted and fitted to a Receiving Ship, to be moored by the Tower of London.
Notice that even the mast steps, shot locker, steering wheel and gun ports on the quarter deck were removed.. A platform between stations 12 and F was installed that did not exist when she was a fighting ship. RMG dates the drawing you posted as 1787, 3 years after she was decommissioned and was taken out of armed service.
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Below is the design as a fighting ship. RMG dates this drawing as circa 1771-1776
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Due to my limited access to sources, I hadn't conducted thorough research and analysis on this ship. When I initially published the post, I simply chose a drawing I found visually appealing without understanding the issue you raised at the time. I will revise my post accordingly. Thank you very much for your correction!
 
You are most welcome Arban, I am glad to help in any way that I can. I don't know if you have the deck plans, but whether you build her as a receiving ship or a fighting ship, all her deck plans are available at RMG Collections website in low resolution and at the WikiCommons website in high resolution.

Allan

Below you can see the difference in the deck layouts from when she carried cannon and when she carried prisoners.


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1787 I love how they call the lower deck midships when she carried pressed men instead of cannon the "volunteer" room. I would bet not one in ten of the men that quartered there were volunteers.
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AllanKP69 said:
You are most welcome Arban, I am glad to help in any way that I can. I don't know if you have the deck plans, but whether you build her as a receiving ship or a fighting ship, all her deck plans are available at RMG Collections website in low resolution and at the WikiCommons website in high resolution.

Allan

Below you can see the difference in the deck layouts from when she carried cannon and when she carried prisoners.


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1787 I love how they call the lower deck midships when she carried pressed men instead of cannon the "volunteer" room. I would bet not one in ten of the men that quartered there were volunteers.
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Thank you for the information. I have downloaded the drawings from the website! :D Thumbsup
 
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