I think, most probably, both features were to be present on a deck: the planks were tapered, but at the same time some of them were butted into the margin strake, which allowed for a smaller degree of tapering (compared to French decks that didn't have margin strake).
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I also looked at models and monographs, for example, in John McKay's book "Sovereign of the Seas 1637", the boards are straight with a cut into the waterway. I will make a narrowing on the visible decks, on the lower ones it will be cut.
In principle it is looking very good
One question: Marked with red arrow - what is this area? Capstan? Than I wonder if the "partners" would be over the length and distantance of two beams and not only one
We can see, that you treenailed the planking also over the carlings (green arrows) - I guess this would have not been done - deckplanking was enough secured only over the beams- so everywhere were you have also the butt joints between the planks - So I think now treenailing over carlings
One question: Marked with red arrow - what is this area? Capstan? Than I wonder if the "partners" would be over the length and distantance of two beams and not only one
We can see, that you treenailed the planking also over the carlings (green arrows) - I guess this would have not been done - deckplanking was enough secured only over the beams- so everywhere were you have also the butt joints between the planks - So I think now treenailing over carlings
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Guided by the drawing of that time - the сapstan will be two by two.
I saw such a picture and "stuffed" nails into the carlings, if it's wrong, I'll remove it.
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Знову дозволю собі привнести дрібну корекцію у бік реалістичності: у таких місцях, за ради міцності, дошки палуби намагалися не розділяти.
Again, let me make a minor correction towards realism: in such places, for the sake of strength, they tried not to separate the deck boards.
Again, let me make a minor correction towards realism: in such places, for the sake of strength, they tried not to separate the deck boards.
Anatoly, wow this will be a exciting project! I'm pulling up my shop stool to watch your build. Should be fun! Magic Mike
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Привіт.
На жаль, сьогоднішні обставини не дозволяють повною мірою зайнятися будівництвом корабля. Трохи відволікаючись...
На даний момент рами порізали, але вони ще в майстерні, як заберу, то сфотографую.
Я намалював наступну колоду. Але до попереднього вніс корективи.
На жаль, сьогоднішні обставини не дозволяють повною мірою зайнятися будівництвом корабля. Трохи відволікаючись...
На даний момент рами порізали, але вони ще в майстерні, як заберу, то сфотографую.
Я намалював наступну колоду. Але до попереднього вніс корективи.
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looking good - but definitely I would not nail down the deck on the carlings, only on the deck beams - so only treenails where you have also the butt joints of planks
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Hello. Mr. Uwek, could you share information, or write sources, about 17th century deck nagels. But how the boards were attached to beams and carlings. Because what I found there were nails both in beams and in carlings. The truth was the Dutch. But I didn't find anything about English ships. Thank you.
I have to check other resources and information given in publications
What I have in moment by hand are the drawings of Goodwins anatomy book about the HMS Granado, a 1747 buikt bomb vessel, which I am building in moment
HMS Alert 1777
HMS Blandford 1720
and a very bad photo (quality) of Goodwins - Construction and Fitting
but all these information are not from contemporary resources
What I have in moment by hand are the drawings of Goodwins anatomy book about the HMS Granado, a 1747 buikt bomb vessel, which I am building in moment
HMS Alert 1777
HMS Blandford 1720
and a very bad photo (quality) of Goodwins - Construction and Fitting
but all these information are not from contemporary resources
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Thank you. I looked at the archeological researches of "Mary Rose", "Vasa", there were also nagels in the carlings, which is true, one at a time (I have two at a time). In later years (19th century) it was also found on museum drawings. But there is no information for the 17th century, 1st rank. I'm looking in books, maybe where I can find information. The question remains open... 
Consider, from another perspective, that the butt-shift of deck planking always lands on beams. With their relatively wider scantling, they can easily accommodate 2 tree-nails per plank. The carlings are of a significantly smaller scantling and there is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to piercing more holes into a plank of wood.
Yes - there is not enough space, that on both sides of the joint treenails can be installed.....the width of carlings are much smaller than of the beams