Next decoration panel... this one features what looked at first to be two drums, but looking closer at Payne's engraving, it looks more like table clothes over a pair of round tables. No idea what they represent.
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Wow, that’s a lot of stuff to model Kurt. But you are doing a fantastic job!
Thanks Dean. I've been steadily crunching polygons.
This decoration panel is done. On to the next one!
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In my humble opinion, it's been a long time for you to build a model, four years and there's more than half the work left. I see that you're not making progress and you're only working on the computer. In the end, you'll get bored and put it aside.
I hope I'm wrong and you bring this work to a successful conclusion. I hope you don't mind this little criticism.
Best regards
I hope I'm wrong and you bring this work to a successful conclusion. I hope you don't mind this little criticism.
Best regards
Hi Kurt,
Allthough your two party tables look great I wpuld ho for the drums.
On the Van de Velde drawing they more look like drums to me and it would better fit the genre.
Love your work, keep it comming.
Allthough your two party tables look great I wpuld ho for the drums.
On the Van de Velde drawing they more look like drums to me and it would better fit the genre.
Love your work, keep it comming.
Yes, a comparison with Van de Velde made for quite a decision. The painting found in Samuel Pepys' estate is far more detailed, but many of the icons are different from Payne and Van de Velde. My model is trying to stay as close to the Payne engraving as possible since it is the earliest, detailed depiction of the ship. The tables are outside the militia theme, however. A drum are shown on Payne's other decoration panel farther forward on the hull, and it's detailed enough to tell that it is a drum, but these double objects are hard to discern. This contrast between the drum and the tables is noteworthy. There are spots in the center, which would not be on drums, and there are dags of cloth hanging at the bottom edge, the ridges on the sides are uneven, so I decided to simulate cloth in Blender over a cylinder and use that.
Once the cloth animated itself in a decent pattern over the cylinders, the cloth was frozen in place as a mesh, the cylinders inside were removed, and the cloth was closed up at the bottom to make the shapes solid. Then the objects were squashed flatter in depth after some vertical shear deformation was applied.
Payne - appears like draped cloth
Van de Velde - also appears like draped cloth
Payne -drum accurately depicted
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Actually, I will not set this project aside. It's as inspiring to me now as it was when I started. Making the computer models is nothing new to me since I have a history as an amatuer 3-D modeler and that's fun too. Have a little faith!
It shall be done!
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Starting the next decoration panel...
This decoration panel is finished.
This next one is going to be tough to discern. There appear to be two crossed swords under the Tudor rose. This panel on Payne's engraving is unlike the Van de Velde drawing in that it takes up two spaces shown on the drawing and the column between them. Van de Velde depicts a recumbant suit of armor over many weapons, and a figure of some sort below a crown, seperated by a column. Can guess and what the other objects are on the Payne panel and make suggestions?
Payne
Van de Velde
This next one is going to be tough to discern. There appear to be two crossed swords under the Tudor rose. This panel on Payne's engraving is unlike the Van de Velde drawing in that it takes up two spaces shown on the drawing and the column between them. Van de Velde depicts a recumbant suit of armor over many weapons, and a figure of some sort below a crown, seperated by a column. Can guess and what the other objects are on the Payne panel and make suggestions?
Payne
Van de Velde
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nice job!
Good morning Kurt. Your designs are brilliant. Question: have you done a test print of an item? If it were me (and I am way off your skills in blender) I would be worried about some design glitch which would cause a print fail. Maybe I am impatient and just want to see one of your designs printed
.Cheers Grant
Not YET! I'll deal with the printing problems later. Adjustments to object size and print angle will no doubt be needed. I know you guys are curious to see how the objects print out, but I'm on a roll making them in blender and am trying to keep up the pace. For the next three weeks, however, I'm working 72 hours per week away from home, so don't expect too much progress. What would really help is if any of you guys can guess what items are behind the shrouds on this panel. I'm struggling and need suggestions, and this panel has me stalled, especially what is to the left of the Tudor rose in the center and the sword at the bottom.Good morning Kurt. Your designs are brilliant. Question: have you done a test print of an item? If it were me (and I am way off your skills in blender) I would be worried about some design glitch which would cause a print fail. Maybe I am impatient and just want to see one of your designs printed
Cheers Grant
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Hey guys! Check this out. This fellow uses the same approach to 3-D modeling as the decorations I am building.
I like to think more in terms of hours rather than years. I have found that 1500 to 2000 hours for a complex model is not unusual. Add in doing thorough research and making accurate drawings as Kurt is doing, there's hundreds of hours more. If the time spent is enjoyable, no matter if it is a few months or several years it is a good hobby.
Allan
Measuring it in hours is too hard. Years are easier and I probably won't run out of fingers..
Add some more elements... but one question remains...
Fascinating reading through your recent posts Kurt, wonderful work and way beyond my pay grade 
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