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HMS Sovereign of the Seas - Bashing DeAgostini Beyond Believable Boundaries

Vfordyce said:
Is the detail that much better than the kit’s parts, Kurt?
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Oh, hell yes. They could be better, of course, but mine will work fine. The kit parts are all wrong, oversimplified and the wrong shapes and subjects entirely. No kit has the correct decorations, so you have to make your own. The Mantua and Amati are also incorrect for a great many of them. This is what the DeAgostini kit decorations look like.

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The stern is fair but many of the decorations are still incorrect.
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Starting on the CR (Carlos Rex) badge on the beakhead. The "C R" characters are shaped from appear to be roots or tree branches. In order to model these, I am using nurb circles. Basically, a nurb circle is a circle that has a a square made of four segments that act as handles, allowing you to resize or stretch the circle into and oval. So, if you take one circle, and extrude it many times, you can create a series of cylinders which you can shrink or stretch to form the branch shape whoch forms the "C". The crown is the same one used in previous work, but the eagle was modified and re-sculpted from an online model asset.
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Close to being finish with the "C". The individual branches in the "C" are made as separate objects that are merged together using the Boolean Union tool.
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Once this shaping is done, the object is converted from a series of nurbs into a mesh of polygons. Then the entire "C" shape is flattened a bit and attached to the background object later.
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A little smoothing using the sculpt tools, and it's done. This is all done using the most basic tools and functions in Blender, and what take so much time is finding those functions among the hundreds of features in this program.
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Your work combined with the reconstruction Marten ishould give a very very good source for a fantastic model of this fmous ship. This could be a project, where I would have a lot of fun.
I love your detailed design of the ornaments.
 
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Hello Kurt,

I can only agree, the symbols and the research into the symbolism for the ship are unique. Thanks again for your showing, your work and presenting.

I am curious, like everyone else, when you will really print these symbols and we can see the reward of your work!!!
On a side note, would you also sell a set of the HMS Sovereign of the Seas symbols to us loyal fans and admirers of your work? :D Thumbsup
I have not yet dealt with this ship, but your work has made me curious....;)

Best regards
Günther Ship-1
 
Kurt,
Such excellent detailing - SO hope that when you 3D print them all, that they will meet with your satisfaction.

I've seen 3D printers used for model aircraft cockpit, engine and seat detailing WOW - huge differences. Sooner or later kit manufacturers will probably start supplying 3D parts to their kits. Certainly cheaper than including all of those pot metal bits. I would think???

Here is an example of what 3D can accomplish: PS: I just follow this channel - that's all

 
GIG1810 said:
Hello Kurt,

I can only agree, the symbols and the research into the symbolism for the ship are unique. Thanks again for your showing, your work and presenting.

I am curious, like everyone else, when you will really print these symbols and we can see the reward of your work!!!
On a side note, would you also sell a set of the HMS Sovereign of the Seas symbols to us loyal fans and admirers of your work? :D Thumbsup
I have not yet dealt with this ship, but your work has made me curious....;)

Best regards
Günther Ship-1
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These questions have all been answered in previous posts in this thread, but the plan is to continue making 3-D models until all the decorations are completed, them start printing them out, making adjustments, and printing some a second time. Then, I plan on selling the 3-D models for about $100. Of course, once the pirates Ship-1ARRR!!!! get hold of them, then I won't be able to sell them as often because they will be found free on the internet, and this is inevitable. However, it's not that bad because they will be out there for other modelers, which help others build this marvelous ship. The modeling community, mostly all of you guys, have helped me out so much to collect the research information and help build my model that making these models available to builders is my way of giving something back. These decoration models will fill a deep hole that no kit manufacturer has ever filled. Besides... what can I do with the 3-D models once my ship is done? It does no good just sitting on them.

Others will take these models and make significant improvements, especially if they are skilled and experienced 3-D models, which I am not. My topology still sucks, partially because I am creating these objects quickly and the techniques used are quite basic. There are modelers on our forum who can make better 3-D models, but they haven't done so for HMS Sovereign of the Seas because of the huge quantity of them. Most modelers who take on the Sovereign like @janos carve them, and those cannot be reproduced.
 
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oldflyer said:
Kurt,
Such excellent detailing - SO hope that when you 3D print them all, that they will meet with your satisfaction.

I've seen 3D printers used for model aircraft cockpit, engine and seat detailing WOW - huge differences. Sooner or later kit manufacturers will probably start supplying 3D parts to their kits. Certainly cheaper than including all of those pot metal bits. I would think???

Here is an example of what 3D can accomplish: PS: I just follow this channel - that's all

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3-D printed parts are definitely going to make detailing better in many kits, which has already begun for kits offered at Dry Dock Ship Models and Parts. The amount of detail found in the next generations of models is about to explode.
 
oldflyer said:
Kurt,
Such excellent detailing - SO hope that when you 3D print them all, that they will meet with your satisfaction.

I've seen 3D printers used for model aircraft cockpit, engine and seat detailing WOW - huge differences. Sooner or later kit manufacturers will probably start supplying 3D parts to their kits. Certainly cheaper than including all of those pot metal bits. I would think???

Here is an example of what 3D can accomplish: PS: I just follow this channel - that's all

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I know of several manufactures who have started with 3D parts, but the ones I got which had cannons in 3D, looked like they hadn't washed or cured them as the parts container with them and other bits had liquid resin still in the bottom of parts bin. Also the cannon barrels had damage from not being cured before handling and banging around during shipping from Europe to USA.
 
Kurt Konrath said:
I know of several manufactures who have started with 3D parts, but the ones I got which had cannons in 3D, looked like they hadn't washed or cured them as the parts container with them and other bits had liquid resin still in the bottom of parts bin. Also the cannon barrels had damage from not being cured before handling and banging around during shipping from Europe to USA.
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Sounds like a real quality control problem.
 
I am waiting on the US Vender to get back with me on this issue, due to size of cannons in this kit, they are very visible with damages. Would look nice of I got good parts and worked them into the kit.
 
Kurt Konrath said:
I am waiting on the US Vender to get back with me on this issue, due to size of cannons in this kit, they are very visible with damages. Would look nice of I got good parts and worked them into the kit.
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Hope you can get the parts replaced. Failing that, you may be able to source them elsewhere. @SZKUTNIK made me a truly exceptional set of barrels customized for HMS Sovereign of the Seas, and worth every penny.
 
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