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Dear Thomas
Agree with the comments of the friends before me, your meticulous on the details and accuracy at every step are what bring you to the high achievements and beauty of your models!
La Belle Poule 1780 by Thomas
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Agree with the comments of the friends before me, your meticulous on the details and accuracy at every step are what bring you to the high achievements and beauty of your models!
Good evening Thomas. Ditto to all. Inspiring work. Brilliantly executed. Cheers Grant
This is going to be a very nice little model Thomas. Great work sofar.
It is looking very good - very good, clean and accurate work
Additional frames are provided for the ship.
Small problems on the construction site.
The frames are 0,5 mm too wide and do not fit.
They can be made narrower either with a file etc. or a disk sander. The gap is somewhat large and is reduced with a glued (double sided tape) auxiliary board .
A right-angled wooden board is used to guide the frame to the grinding wheel.
I sand the glued frames with sandpaper and bent files.
I wish you all a nice weekend
Thomas
Small problems on the construction site.
The frames are 0,5 mm too wide and do not fit. They can be made narrower either with a file etc. or a disk sander. The gap is somewhat large and is reduced with a glued (double sided tape) auxiliary board .
A right-angled wooden board is used to guide the frame to the grinding wheel.
I sand the glued frames with sandpaper and bent files.
I wish you all a nice weekend
Thomas
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Piękna praca jestem pod wrażeniem super. Pozdrawiam Mirek
Hi Thomas. Nice solutions for the little problems. The frames are very nice fitted!
Regards, Peter
Regards, Peter
Hi Thomas,
Your yard crew has a hudge disc sander
Your yard crew has a hudge disc sander
Good morning Thomas. They came up with a good solution to the problemHi Thomas,
Your yard crew has a hudge disc sander
. Cheers Grant.
The additional frames are now installed.
At this stage of construction, the hull already has good strength and can no longer be twisted so easily.
The large frigates, which included the Belle Poule, were very long and spacious.I wish everyone a nice weekend
Thomas
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Thomas, really great work, super clean workmanship and you also did a great job with the solution to the rear problem.
Beautiful work Thomas!
the Belle Poule 1765 was already a bigger 620 tons 12pdr frigate (with 26 * 12pdr and 6 * 6pdr guns)
Planset review - LA BELLE-POULE - 1765 - 12-pdr frigate" in 1:48 by Jean Boudriot & Hubert Berti
Planset Review: LA BELLE-POULE 1765 - 12-pdr Frigate by ENGINEER GUIGNACE - A STUDY OF 12-PDR FRIGATE - frégate de XII de 1765 By Jean Boudriot & Hubert Berti - Translated by François Fougerat This interesting monograph with 22 drawings mainly in scale 1:48 was published in the original...
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@Thomas Marocke
Just checked it..... she had a Crew Complement of all together 8 officers and 260 seamen.
So if you would add 267 figurines it would be crowdy on deck
A small difference between the construction plan and the "Ancre" drawing.
Above the build plan drawing, below the "Ancre" drawing.
On top of the "Ancre" drawing a transparent foil was put and the cannon ports were traced.
This foil on the construction plan of the kit.
The cutting aids provided were attached with glue that can be rubbed off after removing the paper.
Now I am wondering if I should raise the plank under the cannonports or lower the cannon ports a bit. I want a whole plank under the gun ports without narrow wooden stripes of wood as indicated in the kit.
Best regards
Thomas
Above the build plan drawing, below the "Ancre" drawing.
On top of the "Ancre" drawing a transparent foil was put and the cannon ports were traced.
This foil on the construction plan of the kit.
The cutting aids provided were attached with glue that can be rubbed off after removing the paper.
Now I am wondering if I should raise the plank under the cannonports or lower the cannon ports a bit. I want a whole plank under the gun ports without narrow wooden stripes of wood as indicated in the kit.
Best regards
Thomas
You are right with a detailed preparation of the planking, especially because the Belle Poule has a very special form of the hull
1)
The midship gunports (and sills) showed by Boudriot are exactly in line with the planking (green dotted line)
which is also shown at the templates ....... but
but you have to take into account the not vertical installation of the planks, because of the form of the hull
here I tried to show the green dotted line and in red the sill
on this cross section we can see the sill better
and also marked is the plank
So you have to take into account the horizontal "cut" into the plank which will be necessary when the top of the plank has to be on the same level like the sill
To make it more clear I tried to make a small sketch
Orange - frame
red - sill
green - plank
blue - area which has to be removed so that the plank and sill has a horizontal top -> lower part of the gunport opening
1)
The midship gunports (and sills) showed by Boudriot are exactly in line with the planking (green dotted line)
which is also shown at the templates ....... but
but you have to take into account the not vertical installation of the planks, because of the form of the hull
here I tried to show the green dotted line and in red the sill
on this cross section we can see the sill better
and also marked is the plank
So you have to take into account the horizontal "cut" into the plank which will be necessary when the top of the plank has to be on the same level like the sill
To make it more clear I tried to make a small sketch
Orange - frame
red - sill
green - plank
blue - area which has to be removed so that the plank and sill has a horizontal top -> lower part of the gunport opening
Thanks for your support Uwe! I'm still thinking about how to do it. All things have two sides, so also a ship's side. If I change the postion of the gun ports in the height, it also effects the inside of the ship.
The windows still have to fit and the cannons have to be correctly in the gun ports.
Here is the foil that shows the same position of the gun ports in the different plans, held to the model. It is difficult to position due to the curved side of the ship.
I think I'll cut out the gun ports according to the assembly patterns and then use new cut planks for the exact cover. Actually I had planned to build the ship only from the supplied parts.
Best regards
Thomas
The windows still have to fit and the cannons have to be correctly in the gun ports.
Here is the foil that shows the same position of the gun ports in the different plans, held to the model. It is difficult to position due to the curved side of the ship.
I think I'll cut out the gun ports according to the assembly patterns and then use new cut planks for the exact cover. Actually I had planned to build the ship only from the supplied parts.
Best regards
Thomas
Actually, now is not modelling time, with this beautiful weather. But the gunport openings want to be made.
So that they have the right size must be calculated something. The drawings provided are a little too small.
Who does not want to have exact openings? For a careful opening holes are drilled and most of the wood is removed with the fretsaw.
Then the frame is expanded with the file.
From this stage it becomes more accurate. Guide the file parallel to the deck or the frames.
Inserted sills from the kit. Measure again with the caliper and the inside dimension is correct.
There are many approaches for this work, for me these few tools are enough.
On very high-quality models, the lower port-sill is still integrated into the planking inside the ship. For me, the flush finish with the frames is enough in this beautiful kit. I don't want to complicate everything.
Finally, a dry test without glue with inserted deck, two planking stripes and a gun that does not belong.
Best regards
Thomas
So that they have the right size must be calculated something. The drawings provided are a little too small.
Who does not want to have exact openings? For a careful opening holes are drilled and most of the wood is removed with the fretsaw.
Then the frame is expanded with the file.
From this stage it becomes more accurate. Guide the file parallel to the deck or the frames.
Inserted sills from the kit. Measure again with the caliper and the inside dimension is correct.
There are many approaches for this work, for me these few tools are enough.
On very high-quality models, the lower port-sill is still integrated into the planking inside the ship. For me, the flush finish with the frames is enough in this beautiful kit. I don't want to complicate everything.
Finally, a dry test without glue with inserted deck, two planking stripes and a gun that does not belong.
Best regards
Thomas
Wonderful work Thomas and thank you for sharing your methodology.