L'Orenoque Mamoli 1:100 scale

[iutar]

Dear Chuck! You will soon be working on the standing rigging. There is a simple rule: if the standing rigging was coated with tar, then the ratlines, lanyards, and deadeyes were also coated with tar. From 1800 onwards, the tar coating was black. Unofficially, this coating was known as "Stockholm tar." I see that the standing rigging for the bowsprit on your model is already black. That means all the standing rigging should be black. Also—to reiterate—the deadeyes, ratlines, and lanyards will be black as well.
Tarring served to protect such vital rigging from the harmful effects of water. Naturally, all elements of this rigging had to be protected—not just the shrouds and stays—otherwise, the process would have been pointless.

 

[Martin By Eye]

As you know, there is an archive of French Naval Plans. It includes information on rigging practices. Way back, Martin @Martin By Eye , Jerry @JerryTodd and I had a discussion about French rigging practices and how they matched (or not) English or US practices. The conclusion was that the French did not adopt newer rigging practices as quicky as the RN or USN. As I went through the French archive, I found rigging diagrams all dated 1860 that show the use of chain and rigging screws in the lower stays for the mizzen and main masts which I share with you below. Here's the question: Since my L'Orenoque's lower stays are in the rail - any reason to deviate from the historical practice?

Blessings.
Chuck

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interesting question. Again, i think just a bit too early,and would probably extend to the shrouds if fitted to the stays. You will have to build a slightly later project some day, with all you now know.

 

[Martin By Eye]

What ho, shipmates!

I thought you'd like to see a few pics . . .

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looking great, i think the proportions on the spars look good.

 

[The Gavel]

i think just a bit too early,

Martin! Thank you! I really appreciate having you as a resource - 'course that's a spirit guide's job

Blessings.
Chuck

 

[The Gavel]

looking great, i think the proportions on the spars look good.

Martin! I think it's going to turn out! The rigging is going to be extreme!!!! Funny note on that - as I was setting up the futtock shrouds I found myself short of 3mm ebony blocks and as I was setting up the shrouds I found myself short of line for the last shroud pair on the main - can you believe it! We'll I managed that mischief (I HOPE) by spending my pocket money on expedited delivery from my friends in Canada - not waiting 2 weeks at this point

Blessings.
Chuck

 

[The Gavel]

What ho, shipmates!

I did spring for the ANCRE The Art of Ship Modeling by Frolich. It was worth the $$$. I mention this because on my log and other shipmate's logs, I've noticed recently that there always seems to be someone saying that there is only one right way to do something. Of course there are certain things where this is true. On other things, not true at all. For example, no one in their right mind would ever claim that there is only one way to interpret "Green Dolphin Street." Miles Davis, Vince Guaraldi, The Montgomery Brothers and Oscar Peterson have all stamped the same song with indelible meaning and beauty. For me, that is what makes this hobby art. As I read portions of Frolich's book and admired his absolute mastery, I also noticed that he was focused on the art as much as the modeling. For example, all of his dead-eyes are ebony, but none of his standing rigging is black: "I like my standing rigging rather dark . . . and leave the running rigging rather light. It is all a matter of taste and what pleases the eye." p. 184 emphasis added. Here's to the art!

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck D. "The Gavel" Henson

 

[Namabiiru]

What ho, shipmates!

I did spring for the ANCRE The Art of Ship Modeling by Frolich. It was worth the $$$. I mention this because on my log and other shipmate's logs, I've noticed recently that there always seems to be someone saying that there is only one right way to do something. Of course there are certain things where this is true. On other things, not true at all. For example, no one in their right mind would ever claim that there is only one way to interpret "Green Dolphin Street." Miles Davis, Vince Guaraldi, The Montgomery Brothers and Oscar Peterson have all stamped the same song with indelible meaning and beauty. For me, that is what makes this hobby art. As I read portions of Frolich's book and admired his absolute mastery, I also noticed that he was focused on the art as much as the modeling. For example, all of his dead-eyes are ebony, but none of his standing rigging is black: "I like my standing rigging rather dark . . . and leave the running rigging rather light. It is all a matter of taste and what pleases the eye." p. 184 emphasis added. Here's to the art!

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck D. "The Gavel" Henson

100%!

 

[iutar]

"I like my standing rigging rather dark . . . and leave the running rigging rather light.

Quite right! The thing is, my dear colleague, you fail to realize that standing rigging is a complex assembly of several components. That is, it comprises not just the shrouds or stays, but also their deadeyes, lanyards, and ratlines. As for aesthetics—well, from the standpoint of harmony, for instance, black shrouds paired with white lanyards and ratlines simply do not look good.
Whatever is done correctly is always beautiful. If ratlines are not coated with tar, a man could lose his life. If a lanyard snaps, the entire ship could be lost...

 

[The Gavel]

Quite right! The thing is, my dear colleague, you fail to realize that standing rigging is a complex assembly of several components. That is, it comprises not just the shrouds or stays, but also their deadeyes, lanyards, and ratlines. As for aesthetics—well, from the standpoint of harmony, for instance, black shrouds paired with white lanyards and ratlines simply do not look good.
Whatever is done correctly is always beautiful. If ratlines are not coated with tar, a man could lose his life. If a lanyard snaps, the entire ship could be lost...

Thank you for your opinions. I'll follow Frolich and Mastini and my artists eye.

Blessings. Peace. Gratitude.
Chuck

 

[Martin By Eye]

Martin! Thank you! I really appreciate having you as a resource - 'course that's a spirit guide's job

Blessings.
Chuck

let's just say that i try to give my opinions and understanding of things, but i always try to leave space for the individuals interpretation, mainly because i also have an artistic approach to this hobby, as well as a limited budget