Mamoli Royal Louis 1780 [COMPLETED BUILD]

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

@DARIVS ARCHITECTVS used a white stain, I believed, in order to show the wood planks while making in white color on his Sovereign of the Seas. You might try a razor blade to scrape the accidental staining.

Actually Vic, I used acrylic white paint, but sprayed it very thin using an air brush to let the grain peek through, then washed it with thin grey to dull down the brightness. It was a complete experiment, working in the dark but the results were good enough. A ship as late as Royal Louis may have a different color on the hull bottom, perhaps using "brown stuff" to protect from marine shipworm.

"There were three main substances used: White stuff, which was a mixture of train oil, rosin and brimstone; Black stuff, a mixture of tar and pitch; and Brown stuff, which was simply brimstone added to Black stuff. It was common practice to first apply wood sheathing and then pay it with white stuff, although black stuff was occasionally used in this way."

As ship as late as 1780 may have been copper sheathed.

 

[Vfordyce]

Actually Vic, I used acrylic white paint, but sprayed it very thin using an air brush to let the grain peek through, then washed it with thin grey to dull down the brightness. It was a complete experiment, working in the dark but the results were good enough.

Oh yeah, I forgot. The point was you got to see the wonderful woodwork after painting it. I figured you'd chip in with some details after I tagged your nom de plume.

 

[DARIVS ARCHITECTVS]

The green lower hull in these paintings indicate that Royal Louis may have been copper sheathed.

Most models I have seen leave the hull as bare wood:

 

[Slawomir84]

I like this picture and try to use this color for my RL from Heller .

 

[martijnonderwater]

Try CLOU water-based stain - the medium Oak color.

thanks! I actually never heard of this stuff before, but it looks nice on the YouTube videos I watched. I bought medium oak, and light walnut. Nice, new stuff to try

 

[martijnonderwater]

@DARIVS ARCHITECTVS used a white stain, I believed, in order to show the wood planks while making in white color on his Sovereign of the Seas. You might try a razor blade to scrape the accidental staining

Indeed, I'll try the razor. That's an easy thing to try

 

[martijnonderwater]

pff, what a beauty! (Edit: I mean the model in the final picture )

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[Heinrich]

I am glad I could suggest something that may be of help to you.

This picture shows the CLOU Medium Oak stain partially applied to my Willem Barentsz (oak wood).



And the effect in daylight.

 

[Vfordyce]

I am glad I could suggest something that may be of help to you.

This picture shows the CLOU Medium Oak stain partially applied to my Willem Barentsz (oak wood).

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And the effect in daylight.

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Heinrich, I know the reason you use white below the water line. I believe it's to discourage sea critters from eating up the wood. But what is the rationale for white lanyards? I believe I have read somewhere that they were tarred and black because they were semi-permanent once they were in position and they didn't have to go through sheaves.

 

[Heinrich]

Heinrich, I know the reason you use white below the water line. I believe it's to discourage sea critters from eating up the wood. But what is the rationale for white lanyards? I believe I have read somewhere that they were tarred and black because they were semi-permanent once they were in position and they didn't have to go through sheaves.

You are 100% right, Vic. They were actually the same color as the main ropes, but because they weren't tarred, they appeared much lighter in color. My reason is dictated by circumstances. At the moment I it is extremely difficult to import to or export anything from China because of the Covid situation. I therefore used the kit-supplied rope as suggested by the manufacturer.

 

[WojtasS]

I also found this picture described as a Royal Louis, but I'm quite sure if this is true.

In Musée national de la Marine it is described as a Le Louis Quinze

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[Slawomir84]

I also found this picture described as a Royal Louis, but I'm quite sure if this is true.

In Musée national de la Marine it is described as a Le Louis Quinze

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Everything possible..just think that is RL coz also picture is signed on the left down corner. However ships have same colors so i can try make my model this way. Not many coloring pictures with ships of this age.

 

[martijnonderwater]

While episode 2 is rendering, let me just upload some images of the progress so far. Note: these pictures and episode 2 are from before the discussion above on paints.

 

[martijnonderwater]

And here is episode #2:

 

[martijnonderwater]

Some pictures of the progress so far. Episode 3 on YouTube is uploading as we speak. I took @Heinrich's suggestion and applied a CLOU stain. It didn't cover up the differences in colour to my liking, so I painted over it. Unfortunately, I used a water-based paint, and the stain simply dilutes in that as well . The effect is not too bad, so I left it, but it was a really bad idea to paint over the stain with a water-based paint. Other than that, the build is progressing nicely.

 

[martijnonderwater]

And here is episode 3 of the build. Enjoy!

 

[WojtasS]

I think adding more paint won't fix your problem with gaps. They're pretty small, so little wood glue in those spots mixed with wood dust will do the work or some putty.
Letters on name plate- Golden Humbrol nr16, no thinner, just pure paint. But you have to wait longer before next layer.The paint will be thick and dense- easy to aply

Why didn't you secure Wales with masikng tape?

 

[martijnonderwater]

Hi, good point, I actually forgot to fill in a few of the gaps before painting. I was getting a bit impatient with the process ;-) I didn't protect the whales with masking tape, because I want to paint the first whale above the (now white) hull. Spoiler alert: it's matt black by now.

 

[nono318]

Pendant le rendu de l'épisode 2, permettez-moi de télécharger quelques images de la progression jusqu'à présent. Remarque : ces images et l'épisode 2 datent d'avant la discussion ci-dessus sur les peintures.
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Sur ta photo 11, il y a 2 plates-formes, sur mes plans, il n'y en a qu'une.

 

[martijnonderwater]

Sur ta photo 11, il y a 2 plates formes, sur mes plans, il n'y en a qu'une.

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thanks, I'll check it on my drawings! As it happens, that extra platform is only on one side: the other seems to have broken off.