Rigging cannons without blocks

DocBlake

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For those of us who hate to rig cannons, here's a great idea. I've not yet seen this method of securing a cannon when not in use. The train tackles are attached to the carriage and bulwark by hooks, so they can be removed. The breeching line is then lashed across the top of the cannon barrel. Slick!breeching.jpg
 

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I like better the fully rigged Cannon, this way looks like something is missing from the setup, I get it, easier but easier not always better.
 

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Keeping true to the nature of this site, we all build to what pleases the builder. My personal preference is using the blocks, but that’s just me. Scale is an age old problem when building out of the box. For 1:64 I order blocks anywhere from 2mm to 5mm. for cannon rigging in this scale I find 2mm blocks from the bulwark looks just fine. We all at some point make a few minor adjustments for the workability of scale. Dave’s picture is an excellent example of the whole cannon rigging process out of scale. In my view if looks wrong to the builder it is wrong, In this case I would step back and reattack the problem ring or block to the bulwark, it’s the builders choice, I think either is a better alternative to being happy with something just for the sake of moving along. If scale modelling was always easy then it would be not much of a hobby. Again, just my opinion
 

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I have stopped at this point on several warships of various scales because of my inability to come up with a passable solution to the problem of rigging the cannons.
 

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I would like to see more views of that cannon in the first post. I have nearly finished a model of the revenue cutter by Lindberg Since it only sports 6 cannons I figured I would rig them to the best of my knowledge, but after getting 4 of them done I wasn't happy with the results. This was a relatively cheap plastic kit and I've already spent more time and money on it than I had ever planned to. It has been sitting at this stage for over a year. Not far from completion so I figure I better get the lead out of my pants and finish it.

cannon rigging 001.jpgcannon rigging 002.jpg
 

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I agree with Dave, in my case I'd rather not have them rigged than to have them be way out of scale. On my Victory cross section the blocks are the same size as the wheels on the carriages, that has always bothered me. Coming from the N Scale train world 1:160 scale. I did a lot of trying to create the illusion or feeling where detail can't be added. On my 1:93 Constitution I've been thinking about trying to use wire to create a premade canon rigging that would give the illusion of being rigged but not have the actual blocks. Or possibly adding simulated blocks with a little putty or glue. Something that could be done before putting the canon on the ship.

Unless your going for a model show win, a typical model viewer is way more likely to notice what doesn't look right than what is missing IMO. I'd just like to see that neat detailed look but mot cluttered with excess sized rigging.

I'm also looking forward to my next build which will be at 1:50 instead of 1:93 :)
 

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I agree with Dave, in my case I'd rather not have them rigged than to have them be way out of scale. On my Victory cross section the blocks are the same size as the wheels on the carriages, that has always bothered me. Coming from the N Scale train world 1:160 scale. I did a lot of trying to create the illusion or feeling where detail can't be added. On my 1:93 Constitution I've been thinking about trying to use wire to create a premade canon rigging that would give the illusion of being rigged but not have the actual blocks. Or possibly adding simulated blocks with a little putty or glue. Something that could be done before putting the canon on the ship.

Unless your going for a model show win, a typical model viewer is way more likely to notice what doesn't look right than what is missing IMO. I'd just like to see that neat detailed look but mot cluttered with excess sized rigging.

I'm also looking forward to my next build which will be at 1:50 instead of 1:93 :)
You are right and I agree also here with Dave
In order to get a feeling for the sizes of the ropes and blocks of a long gun rigging take a look at these photos:

Hermione and Victory
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I would like to see more views of that cannon in the first post. I have nearly finished a model of the revenue cutter by Lindberg Since it only sports 6 cannons I figured I would rig them to the best of my knowledge, but after getting 4 of them done I wasn't happy with the results. This was a relatively cheap plastic kit and I've already spent more time and money on it than I had ever planned to. It has been sitting at this stage for over a year. Not far from completion so I figure I better get the lead out of my pants and finish it.

I’d like to see a few more detailed views as well. I like the idea.
 
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