Silent Mary by Mellpapa

[mellpapa]

Hey Mellpapa,

You know I'm a huge fan of your Silent Mary. It's amazingly well done. One really has to admire what you've built without any ship plans.

I think you deserve my utmost respect. Thank you for showing us and thank you for seeing the project through to completion.

I do have one small request, though: please take some more beautiful photos with the sea as a backdrop. It makes the Silent Mary look even more impressive...

GIG1810, hello
Thank you for becoming a fan.
The Silent Mary isn't quite finished yet.
We took a commemorative photo now that the basic running rigging is complete.
The martingale stay rigging still needs doing.
Ideally, I'd take her to the quay for an outdoor shoot, but it's winter now with snow and wind, so that's impossible.
Come spring... yes... around April or May next year, I plan to take her to the quay for an outdoor shoot with the sea as a backdrop.
I'll composite the sea and platform in Photoshop.
I'm looking forward to next year's outdoor shoot.
Until then, I'll be posting photos composited using Google Gemini,
so you'll just have to make do with those.

 

[mellpapa]

The Silent Mary is not yet fully completed, but please enjoy this image of the sky and sea synthesized using Google Gemini.

















How did you all like it?
Let me know what you think.

 

[RichardG]

Mr RichardG, hello
Thank you for your kind words.
I'm not particularly skilled at model-making, but I'm glad it turned out somewhat similar to the concept illustration.
Please see the image comparing it to the concept illustration.

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You are way too modest. The thread demonstrates a very high level of manual skill, technique and visual awareness.

It is quite natural for an artist to feel dissatisfied with their work. When you return to it in the future you will see it as we do.

This model is truly wonderful. As I said earlier, I am not a great fan of cinema or of fantasy, but I love this model. Your work is art!

 

[GIG1810]

Hey Mellpapa,

It's so incredibly nice of you to have gone to the trouble of fulfilling my wish.

She now looks as if she's still sailing the world's oceans. Fantastic, I'm very impressed. I've never worked with Google Gemini before. But what you've done with it is truly a masterpiece...

Question for you: Is it difficult to work with Google Gemini? If it's not too much trouble, could you briefly write to me how you were able to transport the model into such a great background? Feel free to send me a private message. I don't want to disturb your build report with my question...

Best regards,

Guenther

 

[Namabiiru]

I'm not particularly skilled at model-making

ウソ！！

 

[mellpapa]

You are way too modest. The thread demonstrates a very high level of manual skill, technique and visual awareness.

It is quite natural for an artist to feel dissatisfied with their work. When you return to it in the future you will see it as we do.

This model is truly wonderful. As I said earlier, I am not a great fan of cinema or of fantasy, but I love this model. Your work is art!

Hello RichardG,
When it comes to building sailing ship models, there are many in the world far more skilled than I.
Especially on Ships of Scale, there are numerous master model builders.
My own skill... well, let's say I'm about average.
Even so, I'm called a “hentai”.

 

[mellpapa]

Hey Mellpapa,

It's so incredibly nice of you to have gone to the trouble of fulfilling my wish.

She now looks as if she's still sailing the world's oceans. Fantastic, I'm very impressed. I've never worked with Google Gemini before. But what you've done with it is truly a masterpiece...

Question for you: Is it difficult to work with Google Gemini? If it's not too much trouble, could you briefly write to me how you were able to transport the model into such a great background? Feel free to send me a private message. I don't want to disturb your build report with my question...

Best regards,

Guenther

Hello GIG1810,
Getting Google Gemini to synthesise content might be surprisingly straightforward.
I'm sure others would find it useful too,
so I'll explain it in a thread when I get a chance.
Do wait until the materials are ready.

 

[mellpapa]

ウソ！！

Namabiiru, hello
It's no lie.
There are many more skilled craftsmen on “Ships of Scale”.
You are a skilled craftsman too.

 

[RichardG]

Hello RichardG,
When it comes to building sailing ship models, there are many in the world far more skilled than I.
Especially on Ships of Scale, there are numerous master model builders.
My own skill... well, let's say I'm about average.
Even so, I'm called a “hentai”.

Well above average, but wakatta!

 

[WMelo]

Olá mellpapa acho que você está sendo modesto, acompanhei a construção do Flying Dunthcemen e está incrível assim como a Silent Mary, você realmente é um artesão acima da média. Também gostaria de saber se você tem interesse em construir a Vingança da Rainha Anna.

 

[mellpapa]

Well above average, but wakatta!

Mr RichardG, hello
The Japanese are a humble people.
I would appreciate your understanding.

 

[mellpapa]

Olá mellpapa acho que você está sendo modesto, acompanhei a construção do Flying Dunthcemen e está incrível assim como a Silent Mary, você realmente é um artesão acima da média. Também gostaria de saber se você tem interesse em construir a Vingança da Rainha Anna.

Olá, WMelo.
Os japoneses são bastante modestos, sabe. (risos)
Quanto à construção do Queen Anne's Revenge...
Pesquisando na internet, vejo que muitas outras pessoas já o construíram, então acho que não há necessidade de eu fazer um...

 

[GrantTyler]

I got a call saying the thread I ordered had arrived, so I went and bought it.
The thread I was running low on had been used for running rigging, so there was even less left. I'm glad the thread arrived.

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Fore Topgallant sail's running rigging, including braces, lift, and bowlines.
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Fore topsail braces and running rigging such as lifts and bowlines.
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Fore Course braces and running rigging such as lift lines, bowlines, and buntlines.
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The bow section is also cluttered with running rigging. I'll look into the Martingale stays before rigging them.
For now, I think I've got the basic running rigging done.
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Once the basic rigging is complete, it's time for test shots.
It's not finished yet, but I've taken shots from various angles I liked. I'll skip the explanation.

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While filming, I thought... it'd be great if Salazar and the Spanish marines were aboard... so I decided to create Salazar and his entourage, along with the sailors and Spanish marines operating the cannons.
I'll work on it when I have free time.
I'll need to make a small boat too.

Apologies if there are any spelling mistakes in the rigging.

Good morning. Wow just a feast for the eyes. Brilliant. Cheers Grant

 

[mellpapa]

Good morning. Wow just a feast for the eyes. Brilliant. Cheers Grant

Hey, GrantTyler,
Thanks a lot.
I'll keep working hard until it's finished.

 

[mellpapa]

■Making the Martingale Stays■

Making parts for the Martingale Stays.
Attach ring pins to the smallest pulley.
Two are sufficient, but I'm making two extra as spares.
Make two pieces with ring pins attached to the ends of the thread for the Martingale Stays.


A is the Outer Martingale Stays,
B is the Inner Martingale Stays, and this is the position of the first fixed section.


A and B pass through the pulley (just a hole in the model, though...) built into the Martingale, then through the bowsprit pulley.


A is the endpoint of the Outer Martingale Stays.


B is the endpoint of the Inner Martingale Stays.


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This is an overall image of the Outer Martingale Stays and Inner Martingale Stays.
It's unclear in the film whether the Outer Martingale Stays and Inner Martingale Stays are actually fitted.

In fact, the rigging in the film isn't clearly visible.
Therefore, the rigging on the Silent Mary is based on research I did online and in books, combined with my own imagination.

The rigging I applied is by no means the definitive answer.

Sorry if the spelling was wrong.

 

[Namabiiru]

Mellpapa,
Your Spelling and rigging are both exceptional!

 

[mellpapa]

Mellpapa,
Your Spelling and rigging are both exceptional!

Caramba!
Obrigado, senhor Namabiiru!

 

[GIG1810]

Hey Mellpapa,

That looks great again! But I'm afraid I have to ask whether the martingale struts really suit the ship. They don't seem right to me based on your rigging. But I could be wrong. Please excuse my comment, I'm just asking. It would be best if you checked which century the Silent Mary was built in. Then you might realise that it was or is more likely a bowsprit...

I love your Silent Mary...

 

[mellpapa]

Hey Mellpapa,

That looks great again! But I'm afraid I have to ask whether the martingale struts really suit the ship. They don't seem right to me based on your rigging. But I could be wrong. Please excuse my comment, I'm just asking. It would be best if you checked which century the Silent Mary was built in. Then you might realise that it was or is more likely a bowsprit...

I love your Silent Mary...

Hello, GIG1810,
You're absolutely right.
It's odd for a ship of that era to have Martingale Stays.
But comparing fictional ships from entertainment films to actual historical ships doesn't make much sense.
The Silent Mary is, after all, a fictional ship from an ‘entertainment film’.
In actual history, ships of that era didn't have steering wheels either.
Compared to actual historical ships, it's full of oddities.
In the movie, all the cannons on the Silent Mary are supposedly 36-inch cannons.
The concept art for the Silent Mary was designed based on what looked cool or authentic.
So it's a mishmash of various fittings.
Having a Martingale Stay makes it look more authentic and cool, right?
So I added the Martingale Stay.


Note: It was not a 36-inch cannon.
It was a 36-pounder cannon.

 

[GIG1810]

Hallo, GIG1810,
Da haben Sie vollkommen recht.
Es ist ungewöhnlich, dass ein Schiff aus dieser Zeit Martingale-Streben hat.
Aber fiktive Schiffe aus Unterhaltungsfilmen mit realen historischen Schiffen zu vergleichen, macht nicht viel Sinn.
Die Silent Mary ist schließlich ein fiktives Schiff aus einem Unterhaltungsfilm.
In der jüngeren Geschichte hatten Schiffe jener Zeit ebenfalls keine Steuerräder.
Im Vergleich zu tatsächlichen historischen Schiffen wimmelt es von Kuriositäten.
Im Film sind alle Kanonen auf der Silent Mary auffälligerweise 36-Zoll-Kanonen.
Die Konzeptzeichnungen für die Silent Mary basierten auf dem, was cool oder authentisch aussah.
Es handelt sich also um ein Sammelsurium verschiedener Armaturen.
Mit einem Martingal-Haarreif sieht es authentischer und cooler aus, oder?
Also habe ich die Martingale-Haltung hinzugefügt.Daumen hoch

Hey Melpapa,

I know it's a fictional ship and that the cinematic moment plays a bigger role here. But it could have been real. I love how you're doing it. I would make the upper martingale bar higher, since you're definitely going to hang a flag on it, right? By the way, my Athena will also be a cinematic ship. I hope that when I have built her, she will be at least half as beautiful as your Silent Mary...