Staghound...Extreme clipper 1850 by rwiederrich 1/96

Rob,
I am so looking forward to this build. It will be amazing to see McKay's design progression from launch of extreme clipper Stag Hound December 7th, 1850 to McKay's 32nd and final medium clipper Glory of the Seas October 21st, 1869. This amazing period covering almost 19 years of his clipper ship evolution led to some of the finest, most powerful and beautiful clipper ships that ever sailed. And next year will be the 175th Anniversary of McKay's entry into clipper ship building.
 
ClipperFan said:
Rob,
I am so looking forward to this build. It will be amazing to see McKay's design progression from launch of extreme clipper Stag Hound December 7th, 1850 to McKay's 32nd and final medium clipper Glory of the Seas October 21st, 1869. This amazing period covering almost 19 years of his clipper ship evolution led to some of the finest, most powerful and beautiful clipper ships that ever sailed. And next year will be the 175th Anniversary of McKay's entry into clipper ship building.
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Indeed....I agree. I'm going to plank her as I did with the Great Republic...using the thin 1/16" thick by 2" wide planks. They cover more and are extremely flexible to follow the curves. Plus, they don't cause the slight indentations that you sometimes get with individual planks.....not bending exactly the same on the bulkheads.

And thanks to your own dedication, by getting me great images of the McKay half model..I will refer to them extensively to make sure the curves are as close to it as possible. Sharp entry and exit lines. Not to mention a sharp overhang of her stern.....unlike the more rounded fantail of Glory of the Seas.

I think Vlad wants to save on postage and is sending me your copy, along with mine...so I can send it to you directly. When I get them. ;)

Rob
 
rwiederrich said:
Indeed....I agree. I'm going to plank her as I did with the Great Republic...using the thin 1/16" thick by 2" wide planks. They cover more and are extremely flexible to follow the curves. Plus, they don't cause the slight indentations that you sometimes get with individual planks.....not bending exactly the same on the bulkheads.

And thanks to your own dedication, by getting me great images of the McKay half model..I will refer to them extensively to make sure the curves are as close to it as possible. Sharp entry and exit lines. Not to mention a sharp overhang of her stern.....unlike the more rounded fantail of Glory of the Seas.

I think Vlad wants to save on postage and is sending me your copy, along with mine...so I can send it to you directly. When I get them. ;)

Rob
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Rob,
I'm going to finish up the 3rd  NRJ installment dedicated exclusively to Vladimir's Glory of the Seas build for January 1st submisdion. Then my plan is to document your Stag Hound build which just so happens to fall in the 175th Anniversary of her launch. Even though I have no immediate plans to build one myself, I'm looking forward to adding her kit to my other one.
 
ClipperFan said:
Rob,
I'm going to finish up the 3rd  NRJ installment dedicated exclusively to Vladimir's Glory of the Seas build for January 1st submisdion. Then my plan is to document your Stag Hound build which just so happens to fall in the 175th Anniversary of her launch. Even though I have no immediate plans to build one myself, I'm looking forward to adding her kit to my other one.
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That's wonderful. I hope I'll have something to show for the next installment after January. I wondered about getting another kit to hang onto myself. I still have the punchouts for Glory of the Seas and I could trace out the bulkheads if need be.
Wouldn't it be cool if a manufacturer would like to use our plans to make their own version of Staghound? A lot of work went into it.

Lots to look forward too. I hope the kit takes less time to get to me, then the book has been taking to get to Vlad.......:(

Rob
 
rwiederrich said:
That's wonderful. I hope I'll have something to show for the next installment after January. I wondered about getting another kit to hang onto myself. I still have the punchouts for Glory of the Seas and I could trace out the bulkheads if need be.
Wouldn't it be cool if a manufacturer would like to use our plans to make their own version of Staghound? A lot of work went into it.

Lots to look forward too. I hope the kit takes less time to get to me, then the book has been taking to get to Vlad.......:(

Rob
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Rob,
Maybe with next year being the 175th Anniversary of McKay's "Pioneer craft of the California Clipper Fleet" some kit manufacturer might finally show some interest in Stag Hound.
 
After making sure things are fit, I glued them and reinforced the seam. I’ll not bother this till it is completely dry. I’ll separate the bulkheads and lay them out in the proper order.

She is quite smaller the Glory of the Seas.

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@rwiederrich
Rob, knowing how rapidly you work and the precision of bulkhead joinery you're working with, this looks like the build will proceed fairly quickly. Exciting to finally see McKay's initial California Clipper being given her just desserts!
 
I'm sorry for any delays my friends...but I have been under the weather for the last 3 days....just now getting my strength back. fighting a tough cough. My annual Bronchitis battle. I hope to get going in a couple of days.
I first have to trace the stem so I can make the cutwater and root for the naval hood. Rich...we decided she had a 3ft keel is that correct. I'll be reinforcing her bulkheads as well....similar to that of Glory of the Seas.

Measuring her frames...it is true she was a narrow thing. She'll widen up after I plank her. Still 24ft at the skylight/companionway on her poop is pretty narrow. Almost makes her deck furniture seam too large. Cautious

First things first.

Rob
 
Rob,
Seasonal bronchitis sounds painful and debilitating. There's no need to apologize for being "under the weather." Take good care of yourself, my friend. Your good health is most important and I'm sure your better half would agree.
As for the controversial keel discussion. In this rare instance, I believe Cornelius McKay's figures over Duncan McLean. Here's the raw figures, upper and lower keel combined with shoe are 46". McLean describes the lower keel as being 39" including depth of shoe clear of the garboards. Subtracting 39" from 46" means the upper keel would only be 7" thick. That strikes me as being too damn thin and would probaby be subject to splintering from all the hardware driven into it.
Meanwhile, Cornelius McKay stipulated in his instructions that 30" would need to be added to his builder's model for keel (implied and shoe). Since Cornelius emphasized that his builder's model was taken directly from mould lines lifted from the lofting floor, I truly believe his specs are "the gold standard" for meticulous accuracy. It was in his letter that we also discovered the rake of masts on Stag Hound was 1 & 1/4th" per foot, not the more aggressive 1 & 1/2" per foot. We also discovered that her bow steeve was 4 & 1/4ths" per foot, not 4 & 1/2" per foot. Meanwhile, I've read that shoes were usually 5" making the lower keel itself 25". That would mean the upper keel would be 16" a much more sensible combination. In addition Henry Hall's list of McKay clippers gives 30" as the spec for lower keel and shoe for pretty much all McKay clippers.
In conclusion, I believe the outer keel was actually 2'6" not 3'.
 
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I know we discussed this in length before, but I believe 3ft is a bit excessive as Chapelle depicts. 2.5ft it is.
It is imperative I taper the stem and cutwater appropriately as well. the keel of the framing is too wide and must be accounted for in the final finish...meaning the hull planking must abut the stem cleanly...without any irregularities.

I will be utilizing the images you provided of the half hull model to keep her as close as possible.

Rob
 
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