Erebus is much like cars of today - it's a 're-badged' Terror kit! 
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Terror and Erebus builds (OCCRE kits)
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Kuba91nt, I'm not sure if you're asking about differences from the actual ship to the model or in the build instructions. If it's the first my answer is, yes there are plenty as ones an actual working ship and the other is just a model. If it's the latter, I would say yes, but I'm just adding together everything I can find and doing the best that I can. As this is my first ship model build I can't really compare but so far I'm quite pleased with everything.
Thanks for the question, I hope this helps.
Thanks for the question, I hope this helps.
To what extent was the ship actually adapted for the expedition?
Documentation includes information that the upper deck received additional transverse reinforcement and insulation between it. This is included on the ship's occre, but it's not visible on the wreck.
The same applies to reinforcements, which are not recorded in the documents. It's possible that the workers added additional beams "on their own," without any documentation, which was not uncommon at the time.
I recommend delving deeper into the history of the ship and the falsification of documents by the Admiralty. This was too exclusive an expedition, it had to succeed.
The ship sank, but the documents remained...
I had previously built the OcCre HMS Terror. Great kit and good instructions. Read alot beforehand and researched it before building.
I've bee toying with the idea of building the Erebus, but shared many of the hesitations mentioned.
The Terror was a Vesuvius class bomb ship at 325 tons, 102 feet in length and with a 27 foot beam.
The Erebus was a Hecla class bomb ship at 372 tons, 105 feet in length and with a 29 foot beam.
They were both similar rigged. The hull and bow profiles were very close. The deck plans varied. I used Becks' book on Terror for details.
Building the Erebus from the kit might take some "Kentucky windage" to get close to the authentic differences.
I've bee toying with the idea of building the Erebus, but shared many of the hesitations mentioned.
The Terror was a Vesuvius class bomb ship at 325 tons, 102 feet in length and with a 27 foot beam.
The Erebus was a Hecla class bomb ship at 372 tons, 105 feet in length and with a 29 foot beam.
They were both similar rigged. The hull and bow profiles were very close. The deck plans varied. I used Becks' book on Terror for details.
Building the Erebus from the kit might take some "Kentucky windage" to get close to the authentic differences.
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Very nice looking build Peso Pete. I'm afraid I've been sidetracked a bit for the last while. My wife decided that it was time to go through all of our decorations and stuff stored in the crawlspace as we got out our Christmas decorations. We found 5 very nice drawings at the bottom of a box my mother in law bought back in the 80's. I decided to frame them as they're really well done and are of wonderful old limestone buildings built long ago in a small local town that we both have connections to. It was a challenge, and involved quite a bit of woodwork (so it kind of fit's here). I managed to do a pretty good job for just over $100 altogether. The drawings are now saved and hung up and I'm back at my ship building.
Thank you.
Nice prints. Are they signed?
Nice prints. Are they signed?
They is much speculative documentation regarding the modifications to Erebus and Terror. But Erebus has less online than Terror.
Prior to the ill fated voyage, both ships had extensive remodeling for the stern/rudder area to accommodate the new retractable propeller. The decks were re re-enforced originally ( as these were "bomb" ships with heavy mortars on deck., but double planked prior to the voyage. The ship was a bomb vessel, with an extremely strong hull, built to withstand the impact of explosions. Iron plating was added fore and aft* on the ships' hulls to make them more resistant to pack ice, and their decks were cross-planked to distribute impact forces. For the Franklin Expedition, water tight bulkheads were installed, and a double lining of copper sheathing was fitted around the keel. ( if you have watched the Parks Canada footage, some details of the decking can be seen on Erebus )
In Scott Cookmans book, ICE BLINK, ( Really great book to read) he refers to Barrow and mandating other modifications. These included: " the ships sides which were 3" of English oak, were doubled with two layers of African oak, each 1 1/2 inches thick wrought diagonally against each other. In turn this weas overlayed with with two layers of Canadian elm, each 2 inches thick, again wrought diagonally.
By the way, the Terror OcCre kit did not include the stern water closets and curved davits as confirmed bt the underwater photos of Terror.( I fabricated those and added to my build)
Some remaining questions are: did the iron plating extend along the sides just below the ice channel? Were all hatches "doubled" Did Terror have 9 ships boats or 6.
Matthew Betts book, THE TERROR gives much good building information.
Haul away matey, I'm anxious to see the new Terror builds
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