Any aerosol without the addition of water is possible; Auto-K-Lack Primer Grey is one option ... some colleagues also use CLOU deep primer - gives additional stability ... but stinks terribly ...
kind regards
Wil
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kind regards
Wil
Thanks a lot, Wil, so I do dustlayer over the parts to avoid any problems.
ALL SCALES:
Research's result- I finally got my Post Card original from ebay by mail - so I know there have been wooden stairs aside the hull on the French torpilleurs:
Here GABION showing it on port side: an elaborated design tall at top and all arround rounded very nice I couldn't figure out in what way these stairs we're attached to the hull in a save way.
Does anybody of you know if the Russian Navy of the tzar did use these items, too??
Thank you very much.
Sending best wishes from Berlin, Christian
Research's result- I finally got my Post Card original from ebay by mail - so I know there have been wooden stairs aside the hull on the French torpilleurs:
Here GABION showing it on port side: an elaborated design tall at top and all arround rounded very nice I couldn't figure out in what way these stairs we're attached to the hull in a save way.
Does anybody of you know if the Russian Navy of the tzar did use these items, too??
Thank you very much.
Sending best wishes from Berlin, Christian
Two letters of the name of the cruiser "Izumrud", photographed in the Museum of the Pacific Fleet in Vladivostok. They were traditionally in the Old Slavonic style.
Thanks Walter, for the helpfull information and the picture.
I recently started to write in a Russian forum and got some highly interesting knowledge I do like to share with you as Roman ("Engineman") added some information in my Russian Forum:
Hi Christian, (...)
Answering your question about the letters - typically these were made from brass sheet and fitted to the hull with screws through the led layer (to prevent corrosion with steel hull).
Speaking about the wooden outboard ladder - yes, it was quite a common practice. Not only for the French NAVY.
Cheers,
Roman
So here we are and I do not think it is possible for me to show the lead part in even my 1/64 FOREL' model.
Drawing and building this ladder will be an interesting object to deal with...
So hopefully this weekend I do find some mood and minutes to Sand the CenterLine's Board.
I know, I read your thread there too.
YGmodel FOREL' in 1:100
Hello dear friends of the white torpedo boat!
Today I got the very first batch of filling cardboard for my hull:
As promised I did add the imperial ruler for our Boston Tea Party members.
These cards are nearly
7-3/8" long and
77mm or 2-63/64" in breadth so I am able to fill the brackets between the bulkheads to form the ''zerost planking'':
Due to the small thickness of the cards I do hope to get the filling very right to the original lining and by this avoid these ugly sinking in of the hull's surface between the bulkheads:
So I do develeope to get a pile of cards for any starboard bracket - a "PLUS" and a "MINUS" one for above respectivly below the CWL. And as you can see easily it will be a big amount of "silly monkey work" to be done, as any card pice in any pile needs to be documentated so I can not only
a)
use the mirrowed version for the port side
b)
and any other model when enlarged or deminished to 1/72, 1/64 and 1:200 (by remembering to change the thickness of the cards up to 139% and 156% or down to 50%...
...hopefully!)
So tomorrow I will have to do the measurements on the plan copies in 1:100 to figure out the shape of the fillers. I do think about overdoing the bow to the hull's outside, so I do have additional material to sand away as a "machining allowance". This as I do think I am not able to work as precise as needed to do it without machining allowance.
Do you have any better ideas?
Hello dear friends of the white torpedo boat!
Today I got the very first batch of filling cardboard for my hull:
As promised I did add the imperial ruler for our Boston Tea Party members.
These cards are nearly
7-3/8" long and
77mm or 2-63/64" in breadth so I am able to fill the brackets between the bulkheads to form the ''zerost planking'':
Due to the small thickness of the cards I do hope to get the filling very right to the original lining and by this avoid these ugly sinking in of the hull's surface between the bulkheads:
So I do develeope to get a pile of cards for any starboard bracket - a "PLUS" and a "MINUS" one for above respectivly below the CWL. And as you can see easily it will be a big amount of "silly monkey work" to be done, as any card pice in any pile needs to be documentated so I can not only
a)
use the mirrowed version for the port side
b)
and any other model when enlarged or deminished to 1/72, 1/64 and 1:200 (by remembering to change the thickness of the cards up to 139% and 156% or down to 50%...
...hopefully!)
So tomorrow I will have to do the measurements on the plan copies in 1:100 to figure out the shape of the fillers. I do think about overdoing the bow to the hull's outside, so I do have additional material to sand away as a "machining allowance". This as I do think I am not able to work as precise as needed to do it without machining allowance.
Do you have any better ideas?
Not really much happened this weekend, my dear friends!
I just took the measurements of the spaces between the bulkheads length between 25-28mms (something between 62/64" to 1-10/12")
and with a maximal hight of 1-3/4" on the CLboard.
So nothing dramatically special took place as you can see in here the orange-red numbers above the brackets:
Just a further small step again.
I just took the measurements of the spaces between the bulkheads length between 25-28mms (something between 62/64" to 1-10/12")
and with a maximal hight of 1-3/4" on the CLboard.
So nothing dramatically special took place as you can see in here the orange-red numbers above the brackets:
Just a further small step again.
Hello friends, today I started to deal with the whaledeck and
the anchor gear. I do think about the railings, too.
I did also look onto the cuts of the hull getting some better ideas of the details...
and of the appearance of the interieur of the mess:
and the technical equipment as boats:
It is highly interesting how little space was in the accomodation:
...here the pipeing of the mushroom vent for the boilers:
...and the complex structure of the aft hull (I do start to understand a bit what it is build like) :
Not the biggest step foreward but again a small pice of progress.
the anchor gear. I do think about the railings, too.
I did also look onto the cuts of the hull getting some better ideas of the details...
and of the appearance of the interieur of the mess:
and the technical equipment as boats:
It is highly interesting how little space was in the accomodation:
...here the pipeing of the mushroom vent for the boilers:
...and the complex structure of the aft hull (I do start to understand a bit what it is build like) :
Not the biggest step foreward but again a small pice of progress.
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Dear friends, the hungry horse effect is something I am most affraid of. But in here (card&paper division) I found a suitable way in Paragraph's great thread on his HMS VICTORY to get a lighter solution for the filling of the gaps:
Here it is very obviouse how the gaps are "bridged" by the use of cardboard:
So thanks you very much for this easy and cheap alternative to the very expensive balsa wood...
...they did very kindly ask for €70,- at the counter - but they dare to ask!
Here it is very obviouse how the gaps are "bridged" by the use of cardboard:
So thanks you very much for this easy and cheap alternative to the very expensive balsa wood...
...they did very kindly ask for €70,- at the counter - but they dare to ask!
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FORELL 1/64
Dear friends, it's 06:49 in the morning and I am on my way:
with my 1/64 roll for the inner skeletton. I took this expensive pice of (thick) paper with me to deal with my measurements of thicknesses, distances, and the possibility of tolerances. I will only do use my 30mm or nearly 12" three angle ruler and my pair of scratch compasses during my break.
Till than ;-)
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I will edit this article when/if progress is done.
Dear friends, it's 06:49 in the morning and I am on my way:
with my 1/64 roll for the inner skeletton. I took this expensive pice of (thick) paper with me to deal with my measurements of thicknesses, distances, and the possibility of tolerances. I will only do use my 30mm or nearly 12" three angle ruler and my pair of scratch compasses during my break.
Till than ;-)
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I will edit this article when/if progress is done.
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Dear friends,
as I am still not okay with my damaged ellbow, but it is starting to get better, so I turend my focus towards the 1/64 copies of FORELL to deal with the enlarged 1/100 YG-cardboard kit. I'll absolutly need some time to start the building progress itself and so I do have to deal with the b/w-copies to get some first ideas and impulses from it.
So this ist the pile of thick-papier copies and my literature in Russian (in the back is an other fullscratch project of a smaller French-Russian TB).
In this scale the boat will be about 875mm/34.45" long, and so my goal is to finish her to her 125th birthday in November 2025.
as I am still not okay with my damaged ellbow, but it is starting to get better, so I turend my focus towards the 1/64 copies of FORELL to deal with the enlarged 1/100 YG-cardboard kit. I'll absolutly need some time to start the building progress itself and so I do have to deal with the b/w-copies to get some first ideas and impulses from it.
So this ist the pile of thick-papier copies and my literature in Russian (in the back is an other fullscratch project of a smaller French-Russian TB).
In this scale the boat will be about 875mm/34.45" long, and so my goal is to finish her to her 125th birthday in November 2025.
Finish Line ist 25.XI.2025 for her 125 birthday
She is the very next end of my work space in the Card Yard Loa: 884,4mms/434.8" and I do think about two drilled through chess figures as her stand. The slots do show 2mm card board with 160g-paper will fit in very well - lucky me!
So I could do my first cuts with my Orthese it needed an unbelievable one and a half hours, so I do my own training.
She is the very next end of my work space in the Card Yard Loa: 884,4mms/434.8" and I do think about two drilled through chess figures as her stand. The slots do show 2mm card board with 160g-paper will fit in very well - lucky me!
So I could do my first cuts with my Orthese it needed an unbelievable one and a half hours, so I do my own training.
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So my arm does look like recently:
I was able to lay my hand on an original Postcard of FORELL this night:
So I can enlarged this source in the copyshop next week.
So I can enlarged this source in the copyshop next week.
I figured out the nets so differ in hight very much:
Looking for further pictures.
Looking for further pictures.
How to get a waterline model with a bit of deepness for the clear resin "water"?
The original postcard arrived from France:
There are a plenty of interesting details to be found:
a)
The windowframes are whiter than the hullcolour - so the hull is not a bright white!
b)
What is the structure aft the window for?
c)
Could this be a metal block above the window?
a)
The mushroom vents are with a dark top head - black? DARK blue?
b) The netting is beginning in a rail in the lower Edge of the "grill deck"'s framing, turning INSIDE the second rail and ending in and out a ropeon 2/3s of the stanchions hight. As the sailor can press down the netting it has to be a rope.
a)
The netting isn't interrupted for the gangway - but the railing is.
b)
The handrails are fixed and the A-rods are from the very same shade of colour as the mushroom vents' tops.
c)
The mushroom vent in the "grill deck" is white topped.
a)
The pair of "vents" at the hull's top are bronze(?).
b)
There seems to be a pipe INSIDE the "tunnel" in the starboard side.
c)
the shape of the grill is interesting and complex.
So there is a plenty to discuss here.
@Waldemar have you got any helpfull ideas?
There are a plenty of interesting details to be found:
a)
The windowframes are whiter than the hullcolour - so the hull is not a bright white!
b)
What is the structure aft the window for?
c)
Could this be a metal block above the window?
a)
The mushroom vents are with a dark top head - black? DARK blue?
b) The netting is beginning in a rail in the lower Edge of the "grill deck"'s framing, turning INSIDE the second rail and ending in and out a ropeon 2/3s of the stanchions hight. As the sailor can press down the netting it has to be a rope.
a)
The netting isn't interrupted for the gangway - but the railing is.
b)
The handrails are fixed and the A-rods are from the very same shade of colour as the mushroom vents' tops.
c)
The mushroom vent in the "grill deck" is white topped.
a)
The pair of "vents" at the hull's top are bronze(?).
b)
There seems to be a pipe INSIDE the "tunnel" in the starboard side.
c)
the shape of the grill is interesting and complex.
So there is a plenty to discuss here.
@Waldemar have you got any helpfull ideas?
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