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HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

Heinrich said:
The hull has two pronounced "cheeks" or hollows - these are areas that first bend inwards before bending outwards again. The first one that you will see at the bow (when I start planking that area) and the other one where you have indicated. Maybe that is what confused you.

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Heinrich, it is because of this depression that such a perception occurs. Previously, I did not meet depressions inward along the length of the body. Do you have a top view, where you can see this bend inward?
 
Alexander74 said:
Heinrich, it is because of this depression that such a perception occurs. Previously, I did not meet depressions inward along the length of the body. Do you have a top view, where you can see this bend inward?
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On my hull it is still mild.

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But, my dear Sasha, just have a look at the Geunieerde Provincien!

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Photographs and model by: Arie van Duyn.

Welcome to 16th Century / very early 17th Century Dutch ships!
 
Heinrich said:
The hull has two pronounced "cheeks" or hollows - these are areas that first bend inwards before bending outwards again. The first one that you will see at the bow (when I start planking that area) and the other one where you have indicated. Maybe that is what confused you.

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If I may take a stab at this, viewed from the top, bulkhead #6 is the end of the bows horizontal curve and the beginning of the sterns straight or tangent section. Since the tangent section also begins its vertical rise at approx. the same bulkhead, when all is viewed from an elevation or side view it gives the impression of a slight discontinuity or depression which is analogous to a mirage. I see what Sasha sees Heinrich but when viewed from any other angle than a true elevation the slight dip goes away. Whew!! I think.
 
Daniel20 said:
If I may take a stab at this, viewed from the top, bulkhead #6 is the end of the bows horizontal curve and the beginning of the sterns straight or tangent section. Since the tangent section also begins its vertical rise at approx. the same bulkhead, when all is viewed from an elevation or side view it gives the impression of a slight discontinuity or depression which is analogous to a mirage. I see what Sasha sees Heinrich but when viewed from any other angle than a true elevation the slight dip goes away. Whew!! I think.
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Wow Daniel! Thumbsup :) You explained it a million times than I ever could and what you say undoubtedly shows why the effect of the cheeks was more pronounced in that one picture. The other thing that is confusing is that the widest point of the hull is below the waterline not level with it as on almost all other ships.

By the way my friend, just for you and @Pathfinder65 Jan, I placed the first oak plank above the fourth wale and capped it with a 2mm x 3mm walnut strip again.

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Now you will understand why I did not opt for an oak cap railing.
 
Heinrich said:
Wow Daniel! Thumbsup :) You explained it a million times than I ever could and what you say undoubtedly shows why the effect of the cheeks was more pronounced in that one picture. The other thing that is confusing is that the widest point of the hull is below the waterline not level with it as on almost all other ships.

By the way my friend, just for you and @Pathfinder65 Jan, I placed the first oak plank above the fourth wale and capped it with a 2mm x 3mm walnut strip again.

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Now you will understand why I did not opt for an oak cap railing.
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Stunning Heinrich, the contrast is so beautiful.
 
Heinrich said:
I find it almost impossible to get onto Modelbouwforum these days, so if I am quiet there, it is because I find it very difficult to access the site from China. :(
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That is quite a pitty Heinrich, but perhaps it wil improve after the summer is gone, i know out of experience with the Dutch KPN that their buildings don't have enough cooling inside, because there are normally only a few hot days a jear in the Netherlands, and if there are hot days, it takes a time for them to get everything back to normal again
 
pingu57 said:
That is quite a pitty Heinrich, but perhaps it wil improve after the summer is gone, i know out of experience with the Dutch KPN that their buildings don't have enough cooling inside, because there are normally only a few hot days a jear in the Netherlands, and if there are hot days, it takes a time for them to get everything back to normal again
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Thank you for that information my friend. I will keep holding thumbs. Sometimes I can log in immediately, and everything looks OK, but as soon as I om a build log with lots of pictures, it gets very slow and doesn't open half of the pictures.
 
Heinrich said:
Wow Daniel! Thumbsup :) You explained it a million times than I ever could and what you say undoubtedly shows why the effect of the cheeks was more pronounced in that one picture. The other thing that is confusing is that the widest point of the hull is below the waterline not level with it as on almost all other ships.

By the way my friend, just for you and @Pathfinder65 Jan, I placed the first oak plank above the fourth wale and capped it with a 2mm x 3mm walnut strip again.

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Now you will understand why I did not opt for an oak cap railing..
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That combination makes for a great contrast. Nicely done. Thumbs-Up
 
Pathfinder65 said:
That combination makes for a great contrast. Nicely done. Thumbs-Up
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Thank you, Jan. I am happy to have stumbled upon the fourth wale - that really makes for a neat fit there. By the way, I laid the first plank down on the starboard side today and it flatly refused the insert that I used on the Port Side and advised you about yesterday. The hull would just not follow a fluent line with it. I was forced to use a full-length strake which it accepted happily, but not before I attempted numerous efforts to use the insert. :)
 
Heinrich said:
Thank you, Jan. I am happy to have stumbled upon the fourth wale - that really makes for a neat fit there. By the way, I laid the first plank down on the starboard side today and it flatly refused the insert that I used on the Port Side and advised you about yesterday. The hull would just not follow a fluent line with it. I was forced to use a full-length strake which it accepted happily, but not before I attempted numerous efforts to use the insert. :)
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Is that the difference in flexibility oak versus walnut??
 
@dockattner Dear Paul. Earlier on, I gave you a long explanation why I do not bevel planks. Well, to cut a long story short, on the solid surface below the waterline and with the filler blocks, I have no other option but to bevel the planks. They lie so flat on that surface, that with the curvature of the hull, there will be gaps unless beveled. So, my friend, once again I learnt never to say never - the simple fact is that each build is different and where I have always managed to get away without beveling planks, WB #2 demands it. :)
 
Heinrich said:
Thank you so much Paul - I am really trying my utmost best. Today, I spent the whole day getting one plank to fit the way that I want it. :)
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Good morning Heinrich- “trying” ?.....you are pulling this off brilliantly. You are owing this for sure. I said it before but worth repeating- I love the oak and walnut combo’s. Cheers Grant
 
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