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HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

The keel work is superb. I just love that oak hull. Her CG at this stage must be aft of midship, just look at how far her bow is out over the masking tape stand. Yet another photo Heinrich where I must hold my breath so as to not knock her over. :p
 
@Daniel20 Thank you kindly, my friend! Nope the Center of Gravity is EXACTLY midships (Frame 6 which is the widest frame). On the earlier pictures. I just had her unknowingly moved right back in the notches of the little temporary stand. So, even if this is a model, she assumes the exact characteristics of the full-sized ship. Now, I am even more chuffed - thank you for asking that question, my friend! :D

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Peter Voogt said:
She is looking very nice, Heinrich.
This is with the Clou?
Regards, Peter
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Thank you so much, Peter! Nope - no CLOU yet.

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The yellow line is obviously the waterline and everything below that line will be painted white. I am however, waiting on the Admiral to assist with laying down the masking tape this weekend.

Tonight though, I will apply CLOU stain to the area between the two green lines which will include a slight overlap below the waterline to ensure that no portion is left bare - i.e., it will have either CLOU stain or paint. I have already tested it - there is no problem painting over the CLOU.
 
Hello Everyone

I mentioned to @Peter Voogt Peter, that I had planned on applying CLOU tonight in some parts, but because that also includes part of the stern, I first had to install the two "hekbalken" - directly translated to English it would be "gate beams", but that does not sound right. They are placed at the point where the curved planked part of the stern transitions over to the straight-planked part.

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If you look at the above picture of WB #1, the hekbalken are marked in green. Now, note their position relative to the adjoining wale. You will see that I placed the hekbalken so that they fall directly over the wale, creating one line. This INCORRECT - doing it, I knew I wasn't doing the historically correct thing, but I suppose I succumbed to Al-Fi in a moment of weakness. :)

So, how should it look like? Well, this is confusing as there is a marked difference between @Ab Hoving Ab's interpreation on the one hand and those of @Kolderstok and Gerald de Weerdt on the other

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If you look at Ab's plans, you will see that the hekbalken fit just underneath the wale.

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Ab's model with the hekbalken underneath the wale.

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If you look at @Kolderstok's plans, you will see the hekbalken are placed just above the wales - in fact, it would be fair to say they almost "rest" on top of the wales.

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Gerald de Weerdt's drawing, which in turn, is an interpretation of Gerrit De Veer's drawings from his journal, also show the hekbalken above the wales.

Therefore, it comes as no surprise that on the replica, the hekbalken are above the wales.

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Looking at WB #2, it was clear that placing the helbalken underneath the wales, was no option and thus I followed the examples of @Kolderstok and Gerald de Weerdt.

Hekbalken on WB#2:

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As soon as the glue has dried - three hours from now - the part of the stern up to and including the hekbalken will be set in CLOU together with the designated portions on the sides and the stem.
 
Heinrich said:
Hello Everyone

I mentioned to @Peter Voogt Peter, that I had planned on applying CLOU tonight in some parts, but because that also includes part of the stern, I first had to install the two "hekbalken" - directly translated to English it would be "gate beams", but that does not sound right. They are placed at the point where the curved planked part of the stern transitions over to the straight-planked part.

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If you look at the above picture of WB #1, the hekbalken are marked in green. Now, note their position relative to the adjoining wale. You will see that I placed the hekbalken so that they fall directly over the wale, creating one line. This INCORRECT - doing it, I knew I wasn't doing the historically correct thing, but I suppose I succumbed to Al-Fi in a moment of weakness. :)

So, how should it look like? Well, this is confusing as there is a marked difference between @Ab Hoving Ab's interpreation on the one hand and those of @Kolderstok and Gerald de Weerdt on the other

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If you look at Ab's plans, you will see that the hekbalken fit just underneath the wale.

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Ab's model with the hekbalken underneath the wale.

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If you look at @Kolderstok's plans, you will see the hekbalken are placed just above the wales - in fact, it would be fair to say they almost "rest" on top of the wales.

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Gerald de Weerdt's drawing, which in turn, is an interpretation of Gerrit De Veer's drawings from his journal, also show the hekbalken above the wales.

Therefore, it comes as no surprise that on the replica, the hekbalken are above the wales.

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Looking at WB #2, it was clear that placing the helbalken underneath the wales, was no option and thus I followed the examples of @Kolderstok and Gerald de Weerdt.

Hekbalken on WB#2:

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As soon as the glue has dried - three hours from now - the part of the stern up to and including the hekbalken will be set in CLOU together with the designated portions on the sides and the stem.
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Hi Heinrich,
What about the rudder ? I assume it will be painted and clear coated as well. Great work with difficult wood. Cheers JJ.
 
Jack Jäger said:
Hi Heinrich,
What about the rudder ? I assume it will be painted and clear coated as well. Great work with difficult wood. Cheers JJ.
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Correct Jack. The rudder will feature a 50-50 combination of CLOU stain and white paint - as would the stem.

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Hans's (@Kolderstok) model of the WB which shows a suggested waterline and the areas to be painted.
 
Heinrich said:
Hello Everyone

I mentioned to @Peter Voogt Peter, that I had planned on applying CLOU tonight in some parts, but because that also includes part of the stern, I first had to install the two "hekbalken" - directly translated to English it would be "gate beams", but that does not sound right. They are placed at the point where the curved planked part of the stern transitions over to the straight-planked part.

View attachment 323926
If you look at the above picture of WB #1, the hekbalken are marked in green. Now, note their position relative to the adjoining wale. You will see that I placed the hekbalken so that they fall directly over the wale, creating one line. This INCORRECT - doing it, I knew I wasn't doing the historically correct thing, but I suppose I succumbed to Al-Fi in a moment of weakness. :)

So, how should it look like? Well, this is confusing as there is a marked difference between @Ab Hoving Ab's interpreation on the one hand and those of @Kolderstok and Gerald de Weerdt on the other

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If you look at Ab's plans, you will see that the hekbalken fit just underneath the wale.

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Ab's model with the hekbalken underneath the wale.

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If you look at @Kolderstok's plans, you will see the hekbalken are placed just above the wales - in fact, it would be fair to say they almost "rest" on top of the wales.

View attachment 323930
Gerald de Weerdt's drawing, which in turn, is an interpretation of Gerrit De Veer's drawings from his journal, also show the hekbalken above the wales.

Therefore, it comes as no surprise that on the replica, the hekbalken are above the wales.

View attachment 323931

Looking at WB #2, it was clear that placing the helbalken underneath the wales, was no option and thus I followed the examples of @Kolderstok and Gerald de Weerdt.

Hekbalken on WB#2:

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As soon as the glue has dried - three hours from now - the part of the stern up to and including the hekbalken will be set in CLOU together with the designated portions on the sides and the stem.
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Should be one continuous piece not two???
 
rtibbs said:
Heinrich,
I know you’re going for historical accuracy however what a shame to cover that beautiful wood with paint :(
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Ron, I thought about that as I did on WB#1. On WB#1 I went for the artistic license and did not paint the wood, but on this build my objectives are different - it's all about being historically "correct". As beautiful as the oak may be, leaving it unpainted would just not be the right thing to do.
 
Heinrich, just for your information: What you call ‘Hekbalken’ (pl) is actually one beam, forming the base of the tuck (on the upper side). The english term is ‘Wing transom’.
When setting up the lines of the ship in the early days of the build the builder can choose how much sheer he wants to give to the lines of the ship. Placing the end of the wale above the wing transom creates more sheer, placing it lower subsequently less. It also has to do with the run of the decks, as in those days the decks were mostly parallel to the wales. It changed later on.
 
Heinrich said:
Ron, I thought about that as I did on WB#1. On WB#1 I went for the artistic license and did not paint the wood, but on this build my objectives are different - it's all about being historically "correct". As beautiful as the oak may be, leaving it unpainted would just not be the right thing to do.
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Understandable
 
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