HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft

[AllanKP69]

I will ignore Caldercraft's building instructions (eg the position).

Good for you. It is a shame the kit designer did not do the research to get it right in the first place.
Allan

 

[HMSFly]

The progress...

 

[AllanKP69]

It is great to see that you used the two layers between the cheeks as shown on the contemporary plans.
Allan

 

[HMSFly]

It is great to see that you used the two layers between the cheeks as shown on the contemporary plans.
Allan

Thx Allan...

 

[HMSFly]

Actually, making and modifying the bow wasn't too bad.The bow railing assembly definitely required some extra attention, as the bow main rail, in particular, needed to be modified.The only thing I'm unsure about now is whether or not to add the extra decoration... see photo. Can anyone offer any advice?
See photo below...

 

[iutar]

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[HMSFly]

I know I haven't been making much progress lately. But the bow required some precision, and I was constantly consulting photos posted by iutar. Looking at photos of HMS Victory, I decided to add the bow decorations (arches): this was common practice for this type of ship in that period. And then... the guns. 26 in total... sanding, painting, etc. I'm paying extra attention to the guns, which will remain visible on the Gun Deck. I'll finish and wire these in detail. The others are not visible.

 

[HMSFly]

 

[AllanKP69]

Great work!! A very good day as I learned something new thanks to your build log. I had not seen beams and knees painted before so checked the contract for a similar ship/year Nassau (64) 1782 and found that some beams and knees were indeed painted.
Allan

 

[iutar]

I had not seen beams and knees painted

Allan, are you kidding? Of course, all the power components were coated with paint to protect them from the elements! Red iron minium performed the best protection. Iron minium protected wood from rotting, and iron from rusting. Another advantage of iron minium was its high fire resistance.

That's why red iron minium was used to coat the inside walls of gun ports, gun port covers, and gun carriages. It prevented smoldering oakum and gunpowder residue from igniting the wood.

I'm paying extra attention to the guns, which will remain visible on the Gun Deck

Dear Mark, the wheels were also necessarily red. The wheel rims weren't black because only fortress guns had iron rims. On naval guns, iron rims would damage the deck, so the iron rims were removed.

 

[AllanKP69]

Allan, are you kidding?

Hi Iutar. I was quite serious as I am not really a kidding kind of guy when it comes to ship modeling. Neither do I apologize for my lack of knowledge compared to others, as long as I continue to attempt to acquire more knowledge. Hopefully I will maintain the same aspiration as long as I am around.
Allan

 

[HMSFly]

Hi Iutar, daer Allan,

Could you please advice me?
I'm willing to make the pillars marked 11 on below drawing.
Are there any specific guidelines regarding layout ?

 

[HMSFly]

Oh and I forgot to ask, the postion on the Gun deck?

 

[AllanKP69]

Could you please advice me?

Pages 8, 12, and 15 of the contract for Nassau (64) 1782 give dimensions of the pillars but only the pillars under the quarter deck have any location information in this contract. I don't see anything on the contemporary plans showing the pillars so no help there. I know I have seen information/plans somewhere but cannot think of where.
Allan

 

[iutar]

Dear Mark! The pillars on the upper deck support the skid beams. The location of the skid beams is not shown in the archival drawings. This is not a big deal because skid beams were designed to store boats and could be positioned differently on each ship.
But we have a model of a 64-gun ship from the Greenwich collection. It shows skid beams. If you replicate the same skid beam arrangement on your model, you won't go wrong. Where the skid beams will be located, there will be pillars that support them. The museum model also shows pillars. Follow the Greenwich model.

 

[iutar]

Pillars to support skid beams were usually installed on the coamings of upper deck hatches. If there were no hatches in a particular area, pillars were installed where the upper deck beam ran. Pillars were never installed on ordinary deck planks, to prevent the structure from collapsing. To support the skid beams, the stanchions were thin; to support the deck beams of the quarterdeck and forecastle, the stanchions were thick.

 

[HMSFly]

Pillars to support skid beams were usually installed on the coamings of upper deck hatches. If there were no hatches in a particular area, pillars were installed where the upper deck beam ran. Pillars were never installed on ordinary deck planks, to prevent the structure from collapsing. To support the skid beams, the stanchions were thin; to support the deck beams of the quarterdeck and forecastle, the stanchions were thick.

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Dear Iutar,

What would I do without you? Thank you so much!

 

[HMSFly]

Making the pillars...

For rigging the guns, I made a small tool. It's much easier than rigging the breeches when the gun is mounted on the deck.