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HMS Agamemnon by Caldercraft

wernerweiss said:
.do the instructions mention that the foremost shrouds were served in this period?
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Hi Werner
The contemporary drawings of Agamemnon show 10 shrouds for the fore mast and 11 for the main mast. Do your plans show something different?
Allan

RMG plan ZAZ1279 Plan showing the body plan, sheer lines (with modified main mast position), and longitudinal half-breadth for 'Ardent' (1764), 'Raisonable' (1768), 'Belliqueux' (1780), 'Agamemnon' (1782), 'Indefatigable' (1784), 'Stately' (1784), and 'Nassau' (1785), all 64-gun Third Rate, two-deckers.1775214240518.png
RMG plan ZAZ1502 Plan showing the body plan, sheer lines with inboard detail, and longitudinal half-breadth for Raisonnable (1768), and later for Agamemnon and Belliqueux (1780), all 64-gun Third Rate, two-deckers.
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Hello Allan,

to answer a reply from you (which doesn´t appear in this thread, I don´t know why).....yes, I was speaking of the foremost shrouds of both the foremast and the mainmast...
No, I haven´t any plans of the Agamemnon.

Planning and preparing my next project, the Speedy from Vanguard Models, I looked at many pictures about the rigging of models of period ships, and what by and by caught my eyes was that the foremost shroud pairs were served while the others were not.

On the website of a german model ropes manufacturer I found this:

Served cotton ropes​

Starting with the second half of the 16-th century ropes were served and tarred namely where they strongly chaffed. These were, e.g., the stay-collar and the ends of stays. Shrouds were served at those places where they were laid around the mast’s top. At the beginning they were served up to the lashing, a little later up to the futtock-shrouds.
In the first half of the 17-th century some of the guys were served, in the second half of the 17-th century the same was done with the first shroud pairs, a little bit later also with bob-stays, backstays and jib-boom-guys. Also block-strops were often served to protect them against wear and tear.

With this in mind and looking at the above pictures I missed the serving of the first shroud pairs ......that´s all I wanted to say.

Greetings and happy easter

Werner
 
AllanKP69 said:
The contemporary drawings of Agamemnon show 10 shrouds for the fore mast and 11 for the main mast.
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Dear Allan!

According to Steele's dimension tables, the foremast and mainmast each had nine pairs of shrouds. The shroud circumference was 10 1/2 inches, and the deadeye diameter was 17 inches. The mizzenmast had six pairs of shrouds, each 6 1/2 inches in circumference, and the deadeye had a diameter of 10 inches. The remaining deadeyes, mounted on the channels, are free.
This number and size of shrouds for 64-gun ships also coincides with the so-called small 74-gun ships.
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