Good to see you back on the shipyard, Maarten. Still full of impressions of your holiday?
Step by step the shape of the Fluyt is coming alive with a nice flowing sheer.
Regards, Peter
A Dutch Fluyt in shell first, reconstructing the "Ghost ship" scale 1:36
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Step by step the shape of the Fluyt is coming alive with a nice flowing sheer.
Regards, Peter
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I am really happy that you found your way back to this challenge. It's looking marvelous. If I compare your simple jig and the jig I build for my Fly, I think that most modelers (including myself) over engineer their builds nowadays.
Good to see further progress on this inspiring build Maarten. A joy to watch.
This "jig" is the setup as used in the real thing a "scheerstrook".
For 18th century ships it is welcome to have a little more guidence on the placement of the frames in 17th century ships this is less critical. As example Vasa has not even the same number of frames on PS as on SB side.
Merry Christmas to you all, have some wonderful days and a healthy 2025.
And thanks for all your interest in my work.
And thanks for all your interest in my work.
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And the best of holiday wishes to you and your beloved ones Maarten. All the best for 2025.
Btw. Intriguing figurehead with a double tailed lion.
Btw. Intriguing figurehead with a double tailed lion.
And to you as well Maarten...may you and those you love experience the joys and blessings of the season. Here's to great health and great adventures in 2025!
It is the Gotheborg as photographed last week.
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A big part of the oplangen is fitted approx. 2/3.
All oplangen which are now fitted are based on the same template with the same outer profile. The change in shape of the hull over this length is determined by the width and rise of the liggers (floor) but using the same oplangen (futtock) profile.
Due to the build methode of the Dutch shipbuilders, getting the maximum from every piece of timber, every oplang is different in length and width. This means in my model every oplang need to be fitted and trimmed to recreate this and get a fit to the different shaped liggers.
On the template I have marked the thickness of the liggers and based on this I can roughly lengthen every oplang to fit it to the respective ligger.
If the oplang is trimmed and there is a proper fit to the ligger the oplang can be trimmed to get a perfect fit to the bilge planks (kimmen). The fit of the default oplang is close as you can see by the small gap.
I then mark the top of the plank and the second plank.
As the planks are flat the oplang should be trimmed to match that surface to create a perfect fit.
All 60 oplangen are trimmed and fitted that way creating a large part of the hull shape. The inner and outer surface of the oplangen is finished in a later stage.
Next step is shaping the bow.
All oplangen which are now fitted are based on the same template with the same outer profile. The change in shape of the hull over this length is determined by the width and rise of the liggers (floor) but using the same oplangen (futtock) profile.
Due to the build methode of the Dutch shipbuilders, getting the maximum from every piece of timber, every oplang is different in length and width. This means in my model every oplang need to be fitted and trimmed to recreate this and get a fit to the different shaped liggers.
On the template I have marked the thickness of the liggers and based on this I can roughly lengthen every oplang to fit it to the respective ligger.
If the oplang is trimmed and there is a proper fit to the ligger the oplang can be trimmed to get a perfect fit to the bilge planks (kimmen). The fit of the default oplang is close as you can see by the small gap.
I then mark the top of the plank and the second plank.
As the planks are flat the oplang should be trimmed to match that surface to create a perfect fit.
All 60 oplangen are trimmed and fitted that way creating a large part of the hull shape. The inner and outer surface of the oplangen is finished in a later stage.
Next step is shaping the bow.
I love this old Dutch messy building method. It is a joy to follow your progress.
What a progress, Maarten! Her prominent sheer is looking beautiful. Building a model on the old fashion way gives a lot of satisfaction. Together with scratch, it’s double fun.
Regards, Peter
Started with shaping the bow. There are three reference lines which are at the basis of shaping the bow of the ship.
First the shape of the most forward frame which is more or less a copy of the centre frame. Secondly we have the stem and a part of the shell build is following the shape of the rabbet in the stem. The last reference is the scheerstrook.
It is about filling the open space below.
You see that the chain is nicely following the line of the stem when hanging from the scheerstrook to the floor. You can see this as the hanging guide rail as drawn by Waldemar.
With help of this chain and by eye I have placed two "cent latten" which are guiding strakes to help to determine the shape of the frame members needed to fill the bow.
I placed one cent lat at the spot of the lower wale and one to fill the space between the lower wale and the bilge planks.
In the fluyt the cent lat at the lower wale follows the shape of the higher wale except slightly narrower due to the smaller width lower in the hull. The lower cent lat I place diagonally just touching the previously shown chain of the hanging guiderail.
One side finished.
Before going to the PS side I have made a small carpenters tool to measure my bow frame shape. I made several 2 Amsterdam feet long strips to scale. Drilled holes in them and with brass pins clenched them together so they can be bent in shape with some friction.
These can be used to take the shape of the frame members on the inside of the cent latten and copied to the wood.
Now both PS and SB side are fitted with cent latten ready to be filled with the oplangen in the bow which will be different from the ones in the sides.
The next post is about how to fill the bow with timber.
First the shape of the most forward frame which is more or less a copy of the centre frame. Secondly we have the stem and a part of the shell build is following the shape of the rabbet in the stem. The last reference is the scheerstrook.
It is about filling the open space below.
You see that the chain is nicely following the line of the stem when hanging from the scheerstrook to the floor. You can see this as the hanging guide rail as drawn by Waldemar.
With help of this chain and by eye I have placed two "cent latten" which are guiding strakes to help to determine the shape of the frame members needed to fill the bow.
I placed one cent lat at the spot of the lower wale and one to fill the space between the lower wale and the bilge planks.
In the fluyt the cent lat at the lower wale follows the shape of the higher wale except slightly narrower due to the smaller width lower in the hull. The lower cent lat I place diagonally just touching the previously shown chain of the hanging guiderail.
One side finished.
Before going to the PS side I have made a small carpenters tool to measure my bow frame shape. I made several 2 Amsterdam feet long strips to scale. Drilled holes in them and with brass pins clenched them together so they can be bent in shape with some friction.
These can be used to take the shape of the frame members on the inside of the cent latten and copied to the wood.
Now both PS and SB side are fitted with cent latten ready to be filled with the oplangen in the bow which will be different from the ones in the sides.
The next post is about how to fill the bow with timber.
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I really admire your bravery with this build, Maarten. Ultimately, you will only know if the hull shape is "correct" once the build of upper stern has also been completed. How does this current hull shape compare to your original drawings/interpretation?