That looks very nice with these flowing lines, Maarten. And also standing free!
Regards, Peter
A Dutch Fluyt in shell first, reconstructing the "Ghost ship" scale 1:36
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Regards, Peter
Brilliant!
This is just “a different level of modelling “….wow. Cheers Grant
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Indeed!
This looks fantastic Maarten! Great work as usual. 
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Many thanks for all your comments and glad you like it allthough there are plenty much cleaner build here on the forum
. Also thanks for all the other likes, much appreciated.
At the moment working on my porch with some bigger 3mtr pieces of oak, so not too much progres on the ship.
In the mean time on the ship I am investigating the use of nails and treenails to attach the planks, this to create a correct fitting of the planks.
To give you an idea of a common plank on the Samuel.
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On the Husum wreck of a dutch coaster you see also nails at the plank joint ends.
All along the the stem keel and stern the planks were nailed.
I have the idea that planks were nailed in place just to fit them. After fitting they were finally fitted with treenails.
In the Samuel planking you see scattered nails at the planks and a rather neat pattern of treenails with two or three treenails per frame timber.
Treenails were fitted for the outer planking of the floor and later addtionally for the ceiling planking. For the sides "huiddigt" I am stil looking into this planking order of first fitting the ceiling or the huiddigt planks between the bilge and lower wale.
To give you an idea how it looks on the model.
More on that later.
Many thanks for all your comments and glad you like it allthough there are plenty much cleaner build here on the forum
. Also thanks for all the other likes, much appreciated. At the moment working on my porch with some bigger 3mtr pieces of oak, so not too much progres on the ship.
In the mean time on the ship I am investigating the use of nails and treenails to attach the planks, this to create a correct fitting of the planks.
To give you an idea of a common plank on the Samuel.
On the Husum wreck of a dutch coaster you see also nails at the plank joint ends.
All along the the stem keel and stern the planks were nailed.
I have the idea that planks were nailed in place just to fit them. After fitting they were finally fitted with treenails.
In the Samuel planking you see scattered nails at the planks and a rather neat pattern of treenails with two or three treenails per frame timber.
Treenails were fitted for the outer planking of the floor and later addtionally for the ceiling planking. For the sides "huiddigt" I am stil looking into this planking order of first fitting the ceiling or the huiddigt planks between the bilge and lower wale.
To give you an idea how it looks on the model.
More on that later.
Nice treenailing, Maarten.@Jimsky , @Tobias , @Peter Voogt , @dockattner , @GrantTyler , @Peter Gutterman , @Dean62
Many thanks for all your comments and glad you like it allthough there are plenty much cleaner build here on the forum
At the moment working on my porch with some bigger 3mtr pieces of oak, so not too much progres on the ship.
View attachment 517517
In the mean time on the ship I am investigating the use of nails and treenails to attach the planks, this to create a correct fitting of the planks.
To give you an idea of a common plank on the Samuel.
View attachment 517518
On the Husum wreck of a dutch coaster you see also nails at the plank joint ends.
View attachment 517519View attachment 517520View attachment 517521
All along the the stem keel and stern the planks were nailed.
View attachment 517522View attachment 517523
I have the idea that planks were nailed in place just to fit them. After fitting they were finally fitted with treenails.
In the Samuel planking you see scattered nails at the planks and a rather neat pattern of treenails with two or three treenails per frame timber.
Treenails were fitted for the outer planking of the floor and later addtionally for the ceiling planking. For the sides "huiddigt" I am stil looking into this planking order of first fitting the ceiling or the huiddigt planks between the bilge and lower wale.
To give you an idea how it looks on the model.
View attachment 517524
More on that later.
Regards, Peter
Project in progress (-:
While treenailing progresses,
And also investigating the order of planking which is influencing the treenail patterns I have prepared a new carving to take on my summer holiday traveling workshop.
The carving I will start is the tafferel or in Dutch "het doorluchtig hakkebord"
This tafferel carving is not documented by the rov during the several dives at the wreck. Niklas Ericsson had drawn some type of acantus leaves on his artist impression of the ship.
I prefer an often seen layout of Dolphins and for my ship with the emblem of the city of Hoorn.
The dolphins are 17th century barok statues and it will look something like this.
Via the print lacquer transfer methode I am transfering it to a piece of boxwood and when the lacquer is dry I can rub of the paper backing to release the print on the boxwood.
That is for next time.
And also investigating the order of planking which is influencing the treenail patterns I have prepared a new carving to take on my summer holiday traveling workshop.
The carving I will start is the tafferel or in Dutch "het doorluchtig hakkebord"
This tafferel carving is not documented by the rov during the several dives at the wreck. Niklas Ericsson had drawn some type of acantus leaves on his artist impression of the ship.
I prefer an often seen layout of Dolphins and for my ship with the emblem of the city of Hoorn.
The dolphins are 17th century barok statues and it will look something like this.
Via the print lacquer transfer methode I am transfering it to a piece of boxwood and when the lacquer is dry I can rub of the paper backing to release the print on the boxwood.
That is for next time.
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Hey Maarten, I remember when you first started this project. I thought to myself, he's going to build a ship from some photos and 3d renderings from sonar, and the available historical information, which can be somewhat ambiguous on its own. This guy is braver than I could ever be.
All I can say is, WOW! She not only has taken shape, but is beautiful! Wonderful craftsmanship. And not to forget, your carvings are great! I really like the backdrop, motivational.
Have you decided how far you will take this marvelous ship model?
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Agreed!
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Interesting theory about the nails at the planks' ends and a plausable one to boot.@Jimsky , @Tobias , @Peter Voogt , @dockattner , @GrantTyler , @Peter Gutterman , @Dean62
Many thanks for all your comments and glad you like it allthough there are plenty much cleaner build here on the forum
At the moment working on my porch with some bigger 3mtr pieces of oak, so not too much progres on the ship.
View attachment 517517
In the mean time on the ship I am investigating the use of nails and treenails to attach the planks, this to create a correct fitting of the planks.
To give you an idea of a common plank on the Samuel.
View attachment 517518
On the Husum wreck of a dutch coaster you see also nails at the plank joint ends.
View attachment 517519View attachment 517520View attachment 517521
All along the the stem keel and stern the planks were nailed.
View attachment 517522View attachment 517523
I have the idea that planks were nailed in place just to fit them. After fitting they were finally fitted with treenails.
In the Samuel planking you see scattered nails at the planks and a rather neat pattern of treenails with two or three treenails per frame timber.
Treenails were fitted for the outer planking of the floor and later addtionally for the ceiling planking. For the sides "huiddigt" I am stil looking into this planking order of first fitting the ceiling or the huiddigt planks between the bilge and lower wale.
To give you an idea how it looks on the model.
View attachment 517524
More on that later.
Comparing your planking with the added pictures of shipwrecks, your work does look authentic.
Hi Ken,
Many thx, it is a fun project to do and I learn a lot during the process. The idea to completely build the ship incl. Interior all the way up to the rigging.
Haha Oak is still quite common and easy to buy, but in the days these ships were build the majority of the wood came from the Baltic states.In Netherlands is probably no problem with access to oak wood? It's the same as pine in other countries, right? A forest high hard weed?
Today I was briefly in Harlingen and had a look at the "witte swaen". Made some detailed pictures of the planking and noticed they came to the same conclusion, similar nail tree nail combination.
See below some other pictures of her.
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I visited the ship last year during my holiday. It‘s in my opinion one of the best replicas I know.
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With a special pattern called.... chaos!
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So far, so good; the current evidence seems to converge to the usage of these nails as common practice.
It also makes sense; in order to retain some edge distance, one needs to use smaller diameter pins, the much larger treenails simply don't fit in these tight spots.
It also makes sense; in order to retain some edge distance, one needs to use smaller diameter pins, the much larger treenails simply don't fit in these tight spots.