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Hi fellow modelers.
I finally decided to buy this wooden model. Thanks for all the tips, knowledge and experience you shared with me.
I bought it from USA amazon and there appears to be some issue with verification of amazon request in my Slovak bank. Anybody have any experience with this?
Hopefully I will resolve this issue today. It is funny, because the same model shipped from USA is 60 Euro cheaper then bought in EU.

Either way I started yesterday after work with preparation. I built ship holder. I inspired myself with many holders I have seen here on SOS. I also bought some clamps which I did not have. 8 small and 6 bigger- it was really cheap only 10 Euro. Here are some pictures of process.
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It was fun to built it. I just need to figure out how to rotate pictures. (update - already done :D) I am doing it from phone walking to work. I am using the shortcut through fields.

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Nice day to everyone.
 
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good to hear that you will start this project - and good to see, that you started already the building log....
Is it the kit from MODEL SHIPWAYS ?
 

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Yes it is. Zoly recommended it and after a lot of thinking I tried to buy it I have seen the instructions and also found already two building logs about it. It was not easy to buy it. In EU there was only one kit and also in USA I bought the last one on Amazon stock. But it is looking good now. I should obtain it in the beginning of January 2020.

I now I can get ahead of myself but I have questions :D.

One of them is how to form the wood during planking. What I imagined is that you basically put the wood in water for 30 minutes and then what? Do I need to dry it in some jig or should I apply it directly on ship with glue and let it dry there (I do not think that glue will hold wet wood)? Or without glue to dry it and then glue it? Can I use my small stove in workshop to dry it faster?
What is the proper way?
 

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Please take a look of my build log of the Virginia.

 

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I read the manual and there are quite good way how t do it. But what is your favourite one. I wll probably go with steaming the wood over boiling water.

What is your prefered way?
 

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I have another question which appeard from studing the manuals and building logs I could find on the internet. Are you using any kind of lacker at the end of the build?

I am asking because partially I would like to paint my ship and partially I would like to have natural wood on same places. Can I at the end of build paint everything in thin layer of lacker? Or just use danish oil on natural wood and leave painted places as it is?

From my experience with wood you can sand all you want but if you paint or lacker you will have some grain standing. The way I was getting rid of the grains it was I used water on the wood, then I waited until it dried and sanded it again, I repeated the process 4x, and then the wood was smooth.
Are any of you using this method on your builds? Or is it easier to build for examle whole deck and then sand it?
 

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Dear friends,

it finally happened. I obtained the building kit of Armed Virginia Sloop. I am sending you few pictures of the kit. I will not do the review of the kit as this is old model and probably all necessary parts will be included here.

I already started today with labeling of all wooden material. I found that one plank is missing. Hopefully it will not matter. There are few errors with the material but I will see as I will proceed how I will manage to overcome them.
I still need to buy CA glue and I would like to buy Danish oil for finishing. I know this has time :D, but still.

I have small issue with recalculation of measurments from inches to centimetres, nothing serius. Google is helping me in this matter.

Firstly there are pictures of the kit.

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Labelling of wood is finished:
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May I make a suggestion. The Armed Virginia Sloop was my first model. I found a web site that Robert Hunt has in which he made a number of very detailed guides or practicums that are very helpful. It guides you step by step and is a great beginers guide. He has one for the Virginia sloop
https://www.lauckstreetshipyard.com/product-page/armed-virginia-sloop
It hooked me on the hobby
If the link does not work look up Lauck Street Shipyard

Strongly reconmend
Regards
Bob
 

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May I make a suggestion. The Armed Virginia Sloop was my first model. I found a web site that Robert Hunt has in which he made a number of very detailed guides or practicums that are very helpful. It guides you step by step and is a great beginers guide. He has one for the Virginia sloop
https://www.lauckstreetshipyard.com/product-page/armed-virginia-sloop
It hooked me on the hobby
If the link does not work look up Lauck Street Shipyard

Strongly reconmend
Regards
Bob
Hello Bob. I already found this link and already asked Robert for the guides. I did not obtain any responce from him yet.

On the other hand i found lot of materials and building logs on internet.
I will use these and of course the maual and plans included in kit.

 

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Hi Guys,

quick update. I did more skiing then modeling in last days of winter holiday.

At first I started with drawing of bulkheads line on center keel.20191231_145743.jpg

Also I needed to figure out the way how to redraw the bearing line from plans. I will probably put light under some glass table and will draw it on some paper.

After drawing the lines for bulkheads I tried to fit the first two. This was only rought fitting as I did not draw the bearing line.
I sanded little of bulkhead and center keel and then tried often to fit the two parts together. I did not want the bulkheads to be loose.

The one thing I noticed is that the center keel and also bulkheads are not perfectly lining with the plans. Already there are some differencies. Here is my question. I tought about it and I thing the importatn points are that the bulkhead are 90 degrees on center keel, the bearing line from bottom is respected with bulkheads and the deck is also respecting one line with center keel and bulkheads. If these points are met, will it be ok?

Also I am leaving the sanding of bulkhead after they will be glued and reinforced with padding. But I would like to draw the lines for precuts on bulkheads from plans in order to have some reference.20191231_145719.jpg

Here is my plans pinned on cupboards.20191231_145724.jpg

And here are some pictures from skiing with my wife in Austria. Enjoy.
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Definately skiing is most important in the winter holidays. Already went a week to the alps before Christmas.
 

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Next update guys. In this build I started to be overhelmed by steps which are far away. So basically what I did is I only plan next step and what I need to do before.
So for know I planned following:
1) Sanding of laser burns from bulkheads
2) Drawing the rabbet line on center keel
3) fitting the bulkheads on center keel
4) sanding the bulkheads and center keel under rabbet line to necessary width

Here i pictures of sanding of bulkheads20200107_192520.jpg20200108_185720.jpg20200108_185713.jpg

Next step was drawing the rabbet line to center keel. Firstly I made easy glass table for redrawing of rabbet line from plans. and then redraw the rabbet line on paper.
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Then I redraw it to center keel.
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I had one issue and it was that the actual center keel was shorter then from plans. I do not think it will do much damage.

For the next two steps I have question. I tried to fit some bulkheads on center keel but they go under rabbet line. Should I sand both sides of bulkheads that the transition is smoth to rabbet line? I will post some pictures latter probably.

So know I will try to fit all the bulkheads on center keel and I will see their position on rabbet line. Base on that I will try to cut to rabbet line and asseble the sternpost.

Any suggestions?
 

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Dear guys. Again it is me. Today was a blast. I made my first mistake ad I repaired it. Lets begin with todays part of building log.

I started with cutting of rabbet. I used small sharp chissel.20200109_190905.jpg20200109_190948.jpg20200109_190956.jpg20200109_191016.jpg

Then I sanded and fitted the keel, stern and sternpost.
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I looked at the planns and there is part where you need to form the stern. Here is picturte of plans.
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And here is mistake I did. At firtst I did not take the stern part for remodeling but sternpost and I did not find out till the end of the shimming. I was very upset. From the beginning I told myself I would by very strict in finding what I need to do next. But I did it.
I needed to find solution. I remembered that after I finished my last plastic model I started with wood carving. I made some spoons and cup. Here are pictures.20200109_215517.jpg20200109_215532.jpg

And here it is. The white wood is olive wood (cup is from Basswood). But guess what is the brown wood. Yes it is walnut. I had some scrap walnut wood. So I tried to scratch build sternpost part. At the end I was satisfied. Here are some pictures of proces.
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The one on the left side is original from kit. On the right is my crafted.
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Here you can see the mistake I did.

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On picture abowe you can se fitted sternpost with everything else. I was smilling when I took that picture :D

Last picture are from sanding and crafting the stern. Which I should do from beginning :D
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I will continue with gluing everything and then fitting the bulkheads. Also some shimming of rabbet will be necessary.

Thank for support and help from SOS.
Hope one day I will build something really hard like many of you do.
 

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Hello all. I continued with the process of the build.

Today I glued something on this model for the first time. It was the sternpost, then stern and keel. Here are some pictures. I used basic water resistant wood glue. I was plesantly surpriced that only after few minutes it was holding sufficiently. Here are some pictures.20200112_112628.jpg20200112_115218.jpg20200112_115225.jpg20200112_115235.jpg20200112_115241.jpg

Then I noted this, let me say, nails holding everything together.
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I found some small nails in my workshop. Head of the nail was still large. So I filled it little smaller. Here is picture.
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I first drilled all the holes with handrill and then I nailed all the parts together.
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Here is center keel after nailing.
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