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I probably missed this detail, but are you using mostly solvent welding or CY? Looking exquisite btw.
BALDER, Vlaardingen Herring Lugger from 1912, scratch build scale 1:50 Plate-On-Frame
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Hi Alan. Thanks for your interest and compliment. I am using mostly—> Faller Super-Expert <— based on Aceton + n-butyl acetate for the Evergreen. For the Raboesch part I use CA based glue.
Regards, Peter
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Thanks for this nice words, Maarten. Then I need to improve my soldering skills. In the depot of the Vlaardingen Museum must be a +2meter model built with brass frames like my build. But for now they can’t tell me where it is ……Hi Peter,
I think you created your own class of build so it will be difficult to find fellow builders.
There are some brass build models of early steel warships but haven't seen them here yet.
Seems to be a nice next project for you
Regards, Peter
Auch, that’s the result of auto-correction ……
Must be ‘descriptions’. Adjusted it …….
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So much stuff in there, but we can't find a 2+ meter brass ship back. LolBut for now they can’t tell me where it is ……
….. new manager …… less ship models ….. more ‘experience’ …….
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The man reckoned by many to be the greatest all-metal modeller of the 20th century was a rather eccentric and reclusive UK modelmaker called Norman Ough, who mainly worked in tinplated steel (I suspect much of it from food cans). He made models for museums and for royalty.. As chance would have it, the link below is to a seller of his book on the topic for pocket-money prices.
www.naval-military-press.com
The Life and Ship Models Of NORMAN OUGH - Naval & Military Press
www.naval-military-press.com
Thanks for that interesting link, Alan.The man reckoned by many to be the greatest all-metal modeller of the 20th century was a rather eccentric and reclusive UK modelmaker called Norman Ough, who mainly worked in tinplated steel (I suspect much of it from food cans). He made models for museums and for royalty.. As chance would have it, the link below is to a seller of his book on the topic for pocket-money prices.
The Life and Ship Models Of NORMAN OUGH - Naval & Military Press
Ps: Now I wrote your name right. Changed it in the other post! My apologies.
Regards, Peter
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They also have a much reduced book on the Essex, £25 reduced to £2.99!. I have ordered a copy of the Norman Ough book for my own interest btw. The UK to Uk postage was almost as expensive as the book. I think these things are worth buying if you love the topic though, one year they are discounted, and a few years later sell for 3 times the original full price.
To the Netherlands it was £20,60, not funny. By airmail £12,50, that’s a bit better. Ordered one. Thanks again.
Regards, Peter
Well…I am a year late, but oddly I found an empty chair, sitting in front of my computer. 
And after a few hours of reading, it’s clear to me the best word to describe your build logs is “cerebral”!
You have shown your ability to work from plans on the Lee, and your innovative approach to ship building to display even the finest of details, even below deck, on the BN.
Now, you are in uncharted territory using plastic and CAD, with fantastic results. I can only say, that everything I have seen you build is worthy of being displayed in a museum! You are a true talent Peter!
And I will remain grateful to watch this build unfold.
And after a few hours of reading, it’s clear to me the best word to describe your build logs is “cerebral”!
You have shown your ability to work from plans on the Lee, and your innovative approach to ship building to display even the finest of details, even below deck, on the BN.
Now, you are in uncharted territory using plastic and CAD, with fantastic results. I can only say, that everything I have seen you build is worthy of being displayed in a museum! You are a true talent Peter!
And I will remain grateful to watch this build unfold.
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What can I say after reading this very nice word from you, my ‘far over the ocean friend’ Dean?Well…I am a year late, but oddly I found an empty chair, sitting in front of my computer.
And after a few hours of reading, it’s clear to me the best word to describe your build logs is “cerebral”!
You have shown your ability to work from plans on the Lee, and your innovative approach to ship building to display even the finest of details, even below deck, on the BN.
Now, you are in uncharted territory using plastic and CAD, with fantastic results. I can only say, that everything I have seen you build is worthy of being displayed in a museum! You are a true talent Peter!
And I will remain grateful to watch this build unfold.
With you on the chair behind your computer it feels like you're sitting next to me.
I think that I have come this far, partly because of what I encounter here at the SoS. And you are one of those who keeps me very sharp with substantive strong comments. I am glad that you are looking over my shoulder again.
Regards, Peter
It’s always a pleasure friend!
And another €10,55 customs clearance because the package is from outside the EU. Thanks to the Brexit!
How a nicely priced book (£5,99) now …….. Well, it’s just for the nice hobby we have.
Regards, Peter
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Before the Balder sails to the meeting in the Scheepvaartuseum in Amsterdam next Saturday, the structure of the rear is reinforced somewhat.
The outer floor profile also serves as a bilge stringer. Lying on the line plan, you can see that the floor beams are at the height of 'WL (waterline) 3':
In this case, you have to look at the waterline in the side view. I have accentuated that in yellow.
However, that waterline is the line on the outside of the frames. The floor profile lies against the inside of the frames. So I will have to adjust it somewhat.
For that, I also used the drawing of the line plan:
For the shape, you now have to look at the waterline in top view. I have placed the profile just above the line of 'waterline 3'.
Then I made frame 9 that is about halfway the remaining opening:
After placing frame 9, the outer floor profile was adjusted between the frames 2 and 14, where it rests on the outside of the horizontal floor beams of frames 5 and 9.
The lines are becoming more and more beautiful:
On the inside on the deck beams, the deck plate between frames 5 and 14 was made:
With the square hole for the light cove and the round hole for the mizzen mast. There is still 1 stringer plate left on the deck. I will make that when the remaining frames and deck beams have been placed.
Regards, Peter
The outer floor profile also serves as a bilge stringer. Lying on the line plan, you can see that the floor beams are at the height of 'WL (waterline) 3':
In this case, you have to look at the waterline in the side view. I have accentuated that in yellow.
However, that waterline is the line on the outside of the frames. The floor profile lies against the inside of the frames. So I will have to adjust it somewhat.
For that, I also used the drawing of the line plan:
For the shape, you now have to look at the waterline in top view. I have placed the profile just above the line of 'waterline 3'.
Then I made frame 9 that is about halfway the remaining opening:
After placing frame 9, the outer floor profile was adjusted between the frames 2 and 14, where it rests on the outside of the horizontal floor beams of frames 5 and 9.
The lines are becoming more and more beautiful:
On the inside on the deck beams, the deck plate between frames 5 and 14 was made:
With the square hole for the light cove and the round hole for the mizzen mast. There is still 1 stringer plate left on the deck. I will make that when the remaining frames and deck beams have been placed.
Regards, Peter
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Good luck to the Balder on her maiden voyage to Amsterdam, and enjoy the meeting in the Scheepvaartuseum. Say hello to all members from SOS!
Continued beautiful work. Enjoy your time in Amsterdam.
Bill
Bill
What I wouldn’t give to join you all there… Enjoy the accolades that are sure to come your way!
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You could combine it with one of your many holiday's
I will do, Jim.
Thanks, Bill
For 2025 we will gives you the date as early as possible. Then you can, as Stephan mentioned, plan a new holiday and visit.
Thanks, mates. For sure it will be a enjoyable day.
Regards, Peter