"Flying Cloud " by Mamoli - kit bash

Peter...you're doing a great job on Flying Cloud. sometimes it can be difficult changing course, mid stream, when new information presents itself.

My own Glory of the Seas build did just that, several times....where compete tear-outs were necessary. Especially if you want an accurate model.
Flying Cloud was built just a year after Staghound and about 180 tons larger. Still...their structures and deck furniture were similar.
I'll be joining(Late on my part), with my own scratch build log of Staghound here pretty soon. I've enjoyed your adventure....keep up the great work.

Rob
 
Thanks. I'll be following Staghound! Keep me apprised. And keep dropping in and making comments!
Reading "Fyling Cloud and the Woman who Guided Her", I learned that her waterways were painted blue! So that's the next retroactive alteration in order, if I can pull it off.

Pete
 
Peter Gutterman said:
Thanks. I'll be following Staghound! Keep me apprised. And keep dropping in and making comments!
Reading "Fyling Cloud and the Woman who Guided Her", I learned that her waterways were painted blue! So that's the next retroactive alteration in order, if I can pull it off.

Pete
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Indeed her waterways were blue. The trick is.....what SHADE of blue.

Personally...I don't like the bright blue that some have used....it's too comical for my taste.:rolleyes:

For my McKay clipper, Glory of the Seas....I chose a more subdued teal blue...that represents a more weathered look. This is in keeping with the overall *Used* aged look.

Just take your time. Paint only the waterways.....not the planksheer.
Good luck.

Rob

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Unintended, but serious benefit: the picture of the side of the main deck house! Thanks for the picture/advice. I'm afraid I painted the waterways blue in the interim between posts. I chose a brighter medium blue. more saturated than the teal. Maybe before she'd made the trip 'round the Horn to San Francisco, 89 days earlier. I'm reading the "Flying Cloud and the Woman who Guided Her" aloud with my wife (better than TV). And I just received "Dare the Wind" by Tracey Fern, illustrated by Emily Arnold McCully, on the same subject: Eleanor "Ellen" Prentiss Creesy, wife of Flying Cloud's Captain Creesy, and Navigator on Flying Cloud's record voyage from New York to San Francisco. Both books are terrific. The children's version is a treat. Cinematically thrilling and beautifully illustrated. The children's book is kind of rare, but worth the effort. It is not written in a way that talks down to its intended, or any audience.
My take on blue waterways, not too intense, I hope. 20240731_143449.jpg20240731_143552.jpgI hope. I really don't want any do overs. They were pretty fussy to mask and paint. :rolleyes:
 
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Peter Gutterman said:
Would you be disposed to post, or provide links to pictures of your other clipper models? I sure would like to see them and have the resource for my own work.
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Just ask what section of the ship you are interested in and I'll find an image that hopefully addresses it.

Rob
 
Can you provide a link to these finished ships? (I wouldn't know how to do that myself. Not very tech savvy,) I'd like to have a way to peruse them at my leisure. I suspect I am not alone.
 
Peter Gutterman said:
Can you provide a link to these finished ships? (I wouldn't know how to do that myself. Not very tech savvy,) I'd like to have a way to peruse them at my leisure. I suspect I am not alone.
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Glory of the Seas, my latest is on these pages under scratch built ships…..and in the photo gallery as well.

Rob
 
Peter Gutterman said:
Would you be disposed to post, or provide links to pictures of your other clipper models? I sure would like to see them and have the resource for my own work.
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Peter,
Here's Rob Wiederrich's 1:96 scale from scratch "Model Ship World" log for our entire 2 year Glory of the Seas build:

modelshipworld.com

Glory of the Seas 1869 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - 1/96 - medium clipper

I've moved the subject of building a hull model of the Medium clipper built by Donald McKay in 1869 to its own log. I didn't want it to become confusing with my 1/96 version...which is in the sail and yard stage. Within a small group of focused Glory admirers it has motivated us to(with much stud...
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Here's Vladimir Wairoa's even larger 1:72 scale from scratch Glory of the Seas build on the same site:

modelshipworld.com

Glory of the Seas 1869 by Vladimir_Wairoa - FINISHED - 1:72 - medium clipper

Dear all, this is beginning of bringing to life one of most famous and beautiful vessel of American gold era of clipper lineage, last D. McKays clipper. She materialized same year as British cutty sark, being medium clipper of 2000 something tons, cutty sark should be a little smaller sibling sis...
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And here's Rob's current build in progress:

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Staghound 1850 by rwiederrich - 1/96 - Extreme Clipper

Here we go again. After doing some re-evaluating, I opted to put aside the clipper Donald McKay for now because the reused CS hull from Revell, just isn’t cutting it and the hull curves are just all wrong. Like the Glory of the Seas, I am going for full authenticity, even to the magnitude of corr...
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You might want to register to make it easier to download the spectacular images. Have fun!
 
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Here she idThanks Rich.
Don’t forget. Great Republic.

Rob
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Rob,
You're right, I forgot Great Republic. Here' her link too:

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Great Republic 1853 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - four masted extreme clipper

Well...I have been planning this build for over a year. Unlike my practice..I will not be modifying a Revell CS hull....but will be building a scratch POB model of the Great Republic from a couple of sources. Namely the McCann plan and those supplemented by the plans provided by Arthur H Clark, a...
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ClipperFan said:
Peter,
Here's Rob Wiederrich's 1:96 scale from scratch "Model Ship World" log for our entire 2 year Glory of the Seas build:

modelshipworld.com

Glory of the Seas 1869 by rwiederrich - FINISHED - 1/96 - medium clipper

I've moved the subject of building a hull model of the Medium clipper built by Donald McKay in 1869 to its own log. I didn't want it to become confusing with my 1/96 version...which is in the sail and yard stage. Within a small group of focused Glory admirers it has motivated us to(with much stud...
modelshipworld.com modelshipworld.com

Here's Vladimir Wairoa's even larger 1:72 scale from scratch Glory of the Seas build on the same site:

modelshipworld.com

Glory of the Seas 1869 by Vladimir_Wairoa - FINISHED - 1:72 - medium clipper

Dear all, this is beginning of bringing to life one of most famous and beautiful vessel of American gold era of clipper lineage, last D. McKays clipper. She materialized same year as British cutty sark, being medium clipper of 2000 something tons, cutty sark should be a little smaller sibling sis...
modelshipworld.com modelshipworld.com

And here's Rob's current build in progress:

modelshipworld.com

Staghound 1850 by rwiederrich - 1/96 - Extreme Clipper

Here we go again. After doing some re-evaluating, I opted to put aside the clipper Donald McKay for now because the reused CS hull from Revell, just isn’t cutting it and the hull curves are just all wrong. Like the Glory of the Seas, I am going for full authenticity, even to the magnitude of corr...
modelshipworld.com modelshipworld.com

You might want to register to make it easier to download the spectacular images. Have fun!
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Perfect! Thanks! I'll spend some quality time with these.

Pete
 
Peter Gutterman said:
Perfect! Thanks! I'll spend some quality time with these.

Pete
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Pete,
Rob's Glory of the Seas build has all of the ultra-rare photos of the ship herself. These were all, most generously supplied to us by author Michael Mjelde. She's proven to be the "Rosetta Stone" for McKay's truly unique, large, East Boston built American clippers. We have unlocked many hidden secrets through close inspection of these images.
 
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I've spent no small amount of time mulling over the ones that have surfaced on this log as a result of your interest. They have proven revealing, instructive and helpful in proceeding with my Flying Cloud model. Thanks for posting them here. I think they are a benefit to anyone interested in the subject and following this log. An appropriate contribution, thanks. Thumbsup
 
Peter,
Paying this illuminating information forward is literally its own reward. I'm thrilled to see McKay's impressive clippers finally being realized for their truly innovative beauty. Incidentally according to Donald McKay's son Cornelius, Stag Hound the project we're working on, was referred to as the first of "a New Line of California Clippers."
 
Peter,
While researching ship's ventilators I came across this subject on Scott Bradner's excellent site:


Bottom line, gooseneck ventilators illustrated on Langford's Flying Fish plans are wrong. A 1994 Nautical Research Journal article states correct planksheer ventilators would have been 2"-2&1/2" diameter open top brass tubes which would have terminated just below the main rail. Stanchions on Flying Cloud were 30" apart and between each would have been 1 maybe 2 of these brass ventilators. At 1:96th scale, you could possibly use brass straight pins to model this fascinatong feature. Emerson's patent ventilators were also mounted midships. They were actually air intake-exhaust pumps. The sobco article has a link with greater detail, if you're curious.

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Peter,
Nautical Research Guild is having a supplies limited back issue sale of 67%-92% off. Along with other issues, Spring 2023 #68 of Nautical Research Journal (includes my first article on reconstructing Glory of the Seas) is still available, on sale for $5.00 ($10 off). Older issues are listed for $1.25 ea; members get additional 20% discount (code: NRG20Off). Here's the link, if you're interested:

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Nautical Research Journal Volume 68.1 Back Issue

The Nautical Research Journal Volume 68.1 was originally published in the Spring of 2023. A limited number of original printed copies are available. Once they are gone, they are gone forever. Volume 68.1 includes: Features USS/SS Leviathan: Building a museum model with a split personality, Part...
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