"Flying Cloud " by Mamoli - kit bash

I begin to fold and bend the sail. I then use a cake makers fondant rolling tool to press and roll the shape of the billow desired

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I lightly paint the sail with an appropriate color. I use rattle can paint. It’s quick and easy.

Then I add details to the sail such as leach and bunt lines

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One thing I failed to mention, is that when you measure the sail to fit the space between yards, make sure you make it slightly longer. why?. Because you have to compensate for the bend and roll of the paper to form the billow. In doing this it shortens the sails dimensions....resulting in the clew points at the corner edge of the sail will not extend down properly to the sheet sheeve in the lower yard. This technique can take a bit of experimenting, but once you understand the principle...you will bust the sails out.

One trick, I plan on using for my Staghound build is wetting the paper to form it, in the unique folded over topsail.....to mimic reducing the large sail when shortening sail.
When the paper dries, it will represent the proper folds and flow...I'm after. We'll see.:rolleyes:

Rob
 
rwiederrich said:
I wasn't criticizing your observations Rich....I was clarifying. And for the record....all of my trucks and cranes were all fully functional. I simply placed them in the desired latitude , then glued them there. since they were not going to move since all the braces were fixed......plus it kept the yard steady as I rigged it. Full functionality is a mute point on a static model. If all the yards are wobbling about, due to their mobility....the effects of gravity would not be significant, when setting lifts, braces or bunt lines....not to mention sheets. A secure yard makes bilateral rigging far more achievable, and reduces continual adjustments to compensate for previous maladjustments .

I figured clarity was in order.....not for criticism, but for the benefit of the reader to fully understand, I left no detail unrealized, cept for making alterations for scale practicalities. I'm all good...no offence was taken, just as no offence was given.Thumbs-Up;)

Rob
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Rob,
Honestly, that's a relief, since I was concerned that my words had unintentionally offended you. That's the last affect I ever want to do. As an enthusiastic design contributor, I'm aware that my lack of any recent model building puts me at a disadvantage in relating to the amazing craftsmanship of you, Vlad, Luis, Peter and many others.
 
Rich...we've been working for quite some time together....and as of yet, I have not been offended by any comments you have made. You, of all people, have had to develop a strong sense of corroboration(for a common goal)..... And with that, comes an acute ability to be flexible, when new information comes in. I simply gave you new and correct information.
Just because I disagreed...doesn't mean I was offended. and I hope, in similar fashion...I did not offend you by my abruptness.

Rob(Co-laborer)
 
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dockattner said:
Hi Peter,

I too am very familiar with the 'staring at plans and doing nothing' phenomenon. Sigh...
Oh, and then there is the 'doing it over after you realize the part CANNOT be built that way'...
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dockattner,
I sympathize with your statement. Then again, once a determination has been made on an item based on the most accurate information available, the next step is to build it. Rob and Vladimir both had tremendous patience in their Glory of the Seas builds. But they both finished their models. Still, they also had to do more than one tear down and rebuild when it became necessary. I too have had to erase and redo sketches when more accurate information became available. I chalk it down to the joy (or potentially frustrating madness) of the creative process. I'm sure your familiar with it since your on a modeler's forum.
 
Peter Gutterman said:
Considering that the mulling over of plans, pictures, drawings and descriptions is at a ratio of about 3 to 1 to actual work, making the steering box took a lot longer than I anticipated. (As always, of course.) :rolleyes: View attachment 476906View attachment 476907View attachment 476908View attachment 476909View attachment 476910View attachment 476911View attachment 476912View attachment 476913View attachment 476914View attachment 476915View attachment 476916
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Peter,
That ship's wheel and steering box are just beautiful. It always impresses me with the miniature craftsmanship abilities that modelers like you and Rob display. It's a sheer joy to behold.
 
rwiederrich said:
Rich...we've been working for quite some time together....and as of yet, I have not been offended by any comments you have made. You, of all people, have had to develop a strong sense of corroboration(for a common goal)..... And with that, comes an acute ability to be flexible, when new information comes in. I simply gave you new and correct information.
Just because I disagreed...doesn't mean I was offended. and I hope, in similar fashion...I did not offend you by my abruptness.

Rob(Co-laborer)
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Rob,
Thank you again for the clarification. I do my best to do meticulous research in order to enable us to create the most accurate clipper ship replicas with the least amount of corrections. It's exciting to uncover documentation to ensure we're being faithful to McKay's designs.
I too am amazed by your Great Republic sailwork. I would not have suspected they originated as paper.
 
ClipperFan said:
Peter,
That ship's wheel and steering box are just beautiful. It always impresses me with the miniature craftsmanship abilities that modelers like you and Rob display. It's a sheer joy to behold.
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Thanks, Rich. When I see Rob's miniatures (e.g. his Staghound steering box), then attempt to create my own, I am reminded, much to my chagrin, at just how tiny Rob's pieces are, and what a challenge it is to model down (in any legible fashion) to that scale. So, I deeply appreciate your kind assessment. Thumbs-Up

Pete
 
Peter Gutterman said:
Thanks, Rich. When I see Rob's miniatures (e.g. his Staghound steering box), then attempt to create my own, I am reminded, much to my chagrin, at just how tiny Rob's pieces are, and what a challenge it is to model down (in any legible fashion) to that scale. So, I deeply appreciate your kind assessment. Thumbs-Up

Pete
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Pete,
Rob has told me that he's been familiar with miniature work both as a Denturist (if I remember the term correctly) and has over 48 years of ship modeling experience. In addition, he clearly has an incredible set of tools to go with it. As the time honored saying goes "practice makes perfect". I'm writing this to remind you not to be discouraged by comparing your work to another's. In comparison, I who haven't carved anything beyond neckerchiefs in my old Boy Scout days of the 60s, marvel at your ability to so precisely cut out that perfect circle ship's wheel.
 
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