"Flying Cloud " by Mamoli - kit bash

[Peter Gutterman]

Thanks, Jim!

 

[Jimsky]

Looking very good, Peter!

The nippers cause some distortion

This is precisely why I avoid using nippers or cutters, opting instead for a jeweler's saw with a very thin blade. When you compress the cut edges together, there's virtually no gap visible. For soldering work, eliminating gaps entirely is essential for a clean, professional result. You still need to align both ends using pliers.

 

[Peter Gutterman]

That's why I used brass wire and a razor blade previously at these tiny scales. Next time I go this small I will and blacken the brass wire chemically, rather than using annealed steel. The razor makes a nice clean straight cut in the brass wire at this thin gauge.
At this scale trying to use a dowel and a fine jeweler's saw Is too tenuous for my palsied grip.

 

[Peter Gutterman]

The Scott Bradner FC plans have an 8' square pen for lambs and pigs mounted above the forward hatch. The fowl were kept in separate coops. Where these were kept is inconclusive. It seems to me that an 8' pen is a little cramped to house enough livestock (pigs and lambs) sufficient for a120 day voyage (as was reasonably expected). A pen over the main hatch would be 12' square. The Bradner option is based on the 1916 Henry Boucher model.
Thoughts, opinions?
thanks, Pete Also, the space forward is more cramped on my model, based on the Mamoli layout, rather than on Bradner's plans.

 

[pugwash]

In days of old the RN carried consumable livestock.
I've read descriptions and seen drawings of goats etc left to wander the decks!
The area where the anchor hoses came aboard was called a manger, filled with straw and livestock.

The Cutty Sark still has its 'pig pen' under the forecastle and has chicken pens before the break of the poop.

Attitudes to animal welfare have since developed somewhat.

 

[Peter Gutterman]

The pen on the Boucher model is just that, the pen on the Boucher model. I wonder what the actual practice was aboard mid19th c. mercantile carriers?
The manger must have significantly enhanced the ambiance for the watch quartered before the mast.

 

[Peter Gutterman]

I've finished the forward and main hatches with their tarpaulin covers, the main cover pulled back. If I build a livestock pen to bridge the forward hatch, I'll make it oblong to increase the interior space and set it high enough to keep it from being swamped and drowning the poor lambs and piggies in high seas.
I've glued down the hatches and deck house and added the deck house ladders. The white metal cast water casks are as yet unpainted and dry-set in place to see how they'll look.

 

[GrantTyler]

I've finished the forward and main hatches with their tarpaulin covers, the main cover pulled back. If I build a livestock pen to bridge the forward hatch, I'll make it oblong to increase the interior space and set it high enough to keep it from being swamped and drowning the poor lambs and piggies in high seas.
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Good morning Peter. Nice move with the canvas look. . Cheers Grant

 

[Peter Gutterman]

Got started making the animal pen.

 

[dockattner]

Nice little project, Peter!

 

[Peter Gutterman]

Thanks Doc. The text gets moved around in odd ways whenever I post this stuff, seemingly at random.

 

[dockattner]

The text gets moved around in odd ways whenever I post this stuff, seemingly at random.

Use the enter key to create space above and/or below the text and images.

At the bottom of your post there is an edit button - you can use that to go back and make changes (or maybe you knew that already?).

 

[Peter Gutterman]

I knew about edit, but not enter. Thanks

 

[Peter Gutterman]

Must have been a challenge to get pigs and sheep in and out of this contraption.
It appears on the Horace Boucher1916 model. I wonder what his source was.
The door-ramp did not appear on Boucher's model but was added speculatively by Scott Bradner.
Anybody out there have a better idea of the manger-pens on clipper ships? (Or packets or similar class mid 19th c. merchant vessels?)

 

[Peter Gutterman]

Rich" @ClipperFan Jones" Jones discreetly pointed out (on PM) that my Flying Cloud Model had an extra splash rail, whereas the actual ship would have had only a single one.
I discovered that the alteration was an easy fix. So, true to form, I once again performed a little retro surgery and made the change.

 

[pugwash]

What is a splash rail?
Is it in the men's room?

 

[Peter Gutterman]

It's the narrow bulwark running from the prow along the length of the forecastle deck, ostensibly to act as a breakwater for seas splashing over the bow. I think it offers more by way of aesthetic value than any practical use.
Or possibly for the reason you suggest when relieving oneself over the bow.

 

[MThomas]

Or possibly for the reason you suggest when relieving oneself over the bow.

... but I thought 'that' was what the hold and bilge were for!

 

[Peter Gutterman]

... but I thought 'that' was what the hold and bilge were for!

Any port in a storm...

 

[Peter Gutterman]

Half the slats for the livestock pen. This thing would require tiedowns on all four corners fore and aft I think! Hardly enough room on my model!