HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

[RDN1954]

Engineers know all the answers may be a true statement, but do they understand the simple questions.

I saw a joking post on Facebook where a young boy asked an adult, who was an engineer, for help to hang a rope on tree limb to make a swing, and got a 10 page instruction manual on what needed to be done with full diagrams, but didn't actually help the young lad hang the rope.

My late flight instructor would have said that was undoubtedly a Dutch aircraft engineer...

 

[Heinrich]

The ship could still be displayed with the disclaimer that it is a rendition of the Hoving interpretation. Nothing incorrect about that IMO.

Excellent point, Dean!

 

[Heinrich]

Engineers know all the answers may be a true statement, but do they understand the simple questions.

I saw a joking post on Facebook where a young boy asked an adult, who was an engineer, for help to hang a rope on tree limb to make a swing, and got a 10 page instruction manual on what needed to be done with full diagrams, but didn't actually help the young lad hang the rope.

Also, a very good point, Kurt! I guess they would simply say that the simple question was the wrong one.

 

[Heinrich]

My late flight instructor would have said that was undoubtedly a Dutch aircraft engineer...

I wouldn't be able to say if it pertains to a Dutch "engineer" or not, but if your late flight instructor said so - heck, who am I to disagree?

 

[Heinrich]

When it comes to a swing, it seems an engineer is not even required! (Courtesy of Jan!) @Pathfinder65

 

[Kurt Konrath]

You got that right with the posting.

 

[Dean62]

As an Engineering person, I remain unoffended! Ask me why?
Because nothing said has been based on facts or findings, nothing has been designed, modeled or analyzed, and nothing has been manufactured, built or tested! Therefore, from an Engineering standpoint, it is mere assumption with nothing to back it up!

 

[RDN1954]

Because nothing said has been based on facts or findings, nothing has been designed, modeled or analyzed, and nothing has been manufactured, built or tested! Therefore, from an Engineering standpoint, it is mere assumption with nothing to back it up!

A perfect summary of nowadays societies…

 

[Heinrich]

Gents, just to make it clear. I am not really part of this fairytale. The admiral is an engineer and so is my friend, Hans from @Kolderstok. I have no problem with engineers - I am far too stupid to fathom half of what they do. Hans sent me this at one point during our discussions and I love it!

 

[GrantTyler]

Gents, just to make it clear. I am not really part of this fairytale. The admiral is an engineer and so is my friend, Hans from @Kolderstok. I have no problem with engineers - I am far too stupid to fathom half of what they do. Hans sent me this at one point during our discussions and I love it!

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Good morning Heinrich. Engineers….I plead the 5th.. . Calvin and Hobbes are the best. I have most of his books and have read them many times- so good. Cheers Grant

 

[Heinrich]

Dear Friends

Back to the expedition. Once again, I had a rethink as to which is the best way to present you with the results of the 2012 expedition without an information overload. I have decided to share with you the essence of the expedition by means of pictures (probably in two or three instalments) and then focus on the actual findings and the interpretation thereof. Tonight then, the first pictorial of the 2012 expedition.


The Barents Sea in Anger.

Emelyanov Igor Borisovich, journalist of the TV and Radio Company "Region-Tyumen".

Aboard the "Aldan"





Andrey Aleksandrovich Pelevin - Geophysicist of the Department of the Geological Faculty of Lomonosov, Moscow State University.



Aleksey Mikhailovbich Protopopov. Hydroacoutics - "STF Hydromaster"



Kireev Valery Vasilyevich - Skipper and Mechanic


Vlasov Sergey Aleksandrovich - Photographer/Engineer: Responsible for Communication and IT Support.


Veronika Solovyova - Documentary Film Editor, Cameraman


Maria Smolyaninova - Project "Willem Barents Caravel"



Until next time. I hope you enjoy these pictures and the opportunity to see what some of the faces behind the story look like. I can assure you, not many people get to see these pictures!

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[Heinrich]

Dear Friends

The actual research in progress:










More photographs will follow later tonight.

 

[Heinrich]

One of the objectives of the expedition was the repair and rebuilding of Het Behouden Huys - Barentsz and his crew's wooden hut in which they overwintered at Nova Zemlaya. In this posting, I focus on that and give you some general views of the island.


The Devil's Jaw in all it splendour.



Tented accommodation during the construction of Het Behouden Huys.



Note Bimbo - the Husky - during her first foray into the snow. Her job? Warn expedition members about the close proximity of polar bears...


And yes, they are real.





Dmitry Kravchenko.



Desolation - above and below



Inside Het Behouden Huys.


Moments of silence ...

 

[RDN1954]

And now re-enact the wintering of Willem Barentsz and his crew ....

 

[pingu57]

Excellent pictures Heinrich, but the environment is not one for me i have to say.
I had to camp once in a tent, and in the morning my tentfront was moved away like a door of steel. I did not like that a bit
But to see it on a picture, it is beautifull but very desolate

 

[Daniel20]

I think you would have to be tough as an old leather boot to stand up to that kind of research.

 

[Heinrich]

And now re-enact the wintering of Willem Barentsz and his crew ....

Throughout the research, the Russians say categorically that they have the utmost respect for Barentsz and the crew's feat during the overwintering. I think the fact that Nova Zembla is part of Russia and is of particular relevance to them, give these researchers a far better understanding of the magnitude of Barentsz and his men's accomplishments. Throughout the research mention is made of the fact that this is no "Flying Dutchman" they are looking for - it is very real vessel that brought very real people there and as such they owe it to Barentsz and his men to find the ship and find out as much as possible about the original expedition.

 

[Heinrich]

Excellent pictures Heinrich, but the environment is not one for me i have to say.
I had to camp once in a tent, and in the morning my tentfront was moved away like a door of steel. I did not like that a bit
But to see it on a picture, it is beautifull but very desolate

Yes, my friend - neither for me. Even to these hardened men, the cold is described as an overbearing presence forever gnawing away at life and sanity. How Barentsz and his men survived this for 10 months is beyond belief.

 

[Heinrich]

I think you would have to be tough as an old leather boot to stand up to that kind of research.

For sure Daniel. These men are tough, very tough - no doubt. And even so they were fully aware that their hardiness could never be mentioned in the same breath as that of Barentsz and his men who had to endure with the barest of amenities, no specialized or dedicated winter clothes and without the certainty of ever being rescued. Just this last thought alone is enough to bring the strongest of men to the brink of insanity.

 

[Pathfinder65]

For sure Daniel. These men are tough, very tough - no doubt. And even so they were fully aware that their hardiness could never be mentioned in the same breath as that of Barentsz and his men who had to endure with the barest of amenities, no specialized or dedicated winter clothes and without the certainty of ever being rescued. Just this last thought alone is enough to bring the strongest of men to the brink of insanity.

After reading “Icebound” I’m fascinated by this expedition and their finds.