HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50

RDN1954 said:
It's almost time to let go of her, she's close to being complete and ready to set sail.
A lovely addition to your fleet.
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You are right, Johan - slowly all the pieces are falling into place. The sails will bring their own challenge and obviously the time that it takes to do it, but I am not rushing the process. I don't know what I will do when she is finished one day.
 
Dear Friends

Initially I had planned on sharing with you all the information that I have on the Russian Expedition, but then I realized that it will be a total overload of information. Rather, will I give you an abbreviated version of the actual process and then focus in detail on the results.

RUSSIAN EXPEDITION CONDITION (CONTINUED)

Late in the evening of September 29, the research vessel "Aldan" (provided by CJSC "Belfreight") left the port of Arkhangelsk and took a course to Novaya Zemlya, in order to search for the remains of what is presumably Willem Barents's Caravel.

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In the photo - the director of CJSC "Belfreight", Evgeny Penevskoy (far left) presents the icon of St. Stephen. Nikola (the Guardian Angel of all seafarers) to the captain of Aldan, Timonin Valentin Borisovich (Blue uniform) and the Head of the Expedition, Dmitry Kravchenko (next to the captain).

I trust that you will be able to see the video by clicking on the link below:



The prominent people in the video are: (in order of appearance):

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Andrey Aleksandrovich Pelevin, geophysicist of the Department of the Geological Faculty of Lomonosov Moscow State University

Engineer-geophysicist. He graduated from the Department of Geophysics with a master's degree in 2011. The topic of the master's thesis: "Application of geophysical methods in archeology on the site "Rachel" (Borodino, Por Bazhyn, Kislovodsk)". His responsibilities will include: active participation in field work, data identification and processing, and the preparation of technical reports.

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Nikolay Lomakin - In charge of the Diving Team

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Head of the Expedition and the World's #1 Authority on the WB - Dmitry Kravchenko

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Director of CJSC "Belfreight", Evgeny Penevskoy.

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"Bimbo" - the early alarm against polar bears!

40-42 Seconds into the video, you will hear the words: "Caravela Merkuri" - Mercury.
 
Daniel20 said:
Hello Heinrich, have you thought about donating her to a library along with some of your research? I'm sure they would find a prominent place to display her.
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Daniel that is a very good suggestion and very much in line with my original thoughts as well. I thought I would donate the model to the Zeeuws Archives in the Netherlands because of the help they have given me in my research. However, in order to do that I have to believe that this ship is an accurate rendition of "Het Expeditieschip van Barents. " Whilst it is an accurate rendering of Hoving's interpretation, the hull form differs significantly from the findings of the Russians (remember, I already know the results of their findings).

To me this model will always be incredibly special as it represents the best I could do with what I had available during a specific stage of my research. However, with the new information that has come to light, I can no longer claim that this model is an accurate representation of Barentsz's vessel. It is clear that the Russians also believe (just like my independent research has shown) that Barentsz was on the bigger of the two ships - the 50 last Mercurius and not on the 30 last ship like Hoving and De Weerdt believe.

Brutal, but the truth! Persequi Veritatem.
 
That is neat, I like it. “Persequi Veritatem”, follow the truth!!

You’ve done the research, build a ship based on information that for over 400 years was translated, edited, revised and imagined. Now new research is in progress to put a “frame” around an archeological find over 400 years old. I don’t see where that disputes your logical findings. So donate the little ship and share your findings.

I used to have a sign on the wall in my office “ Engineers Know All The Answers”. No one ever asked the right Question-Mark
 
Daniel20 said:
I do understand what you're saying, no one wants to misrepresent their work. However, conditional explanations of what you do have would still make for a fine display in a public forum and who knows may spark someone's imagination to pursue the hobby. Just a thought my friend.
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For sure, my friend. Your thoughts are highly appreciated and will be well considered. I am still in the process of reading and re-reading the research results. I most certainly do not agree with everything about the Russian interpretations of how the ship might have looked, but as far as hull shape, the overall height of the rear bulwarks, the steep upwards sweep of the bulwarks and the railings go, I am in full agreement with them.
 
Pathfinder65 said:
That is neat, I like it. “Persequi Veritatem”, follow the truth!!

You’ve done the research, build a ship based on information that for over 400 years was translated, edited, revised and imagined. Now new research is in progress to put a “frame” around an archeological find over 400 years old. I don’t see where that disputes your logical findings. So donate the little ship and share your findings.

I used to have a sign on the wall in my office “ Engineers Know All The Answers”. No one ever asked the right Question-Mark
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Hi Jan - yes, Persqui Veritatem is my personal motto when it comes to the little ship.

I hear exactly what you are saying - if I freeze frame the model at a certain point in my research, it is still relevant. The funny thing is, that with what I know now, I could rechristen my model "De Zwaan" which I believe would be a very close rendering to what the Zeeland ship would have looked like during the 1594 and 1595 expeditions.

However, truth be told - as far as the 1596 expedition was concerned and as to being called Barentsz's ship (even though I will always call it that) :) - it does not conform to Persequi Veritatem.

I just wished I had stuck to my hunch of six months earlier when I already called out De Mercurius as Barentsz's ship. But at the time, I thought, "who am I to question the experts?" It just goes to show ...
 
I have now just seen a picture on Modelbouwforum which made me very happy. My mentor and friend @pietsan Piet Sanders have lately not been well and have actually stopped his building of the Beagle because of health issues. Therefore, to see Piet back at the bench and in better spirit, makes me a happy camper. Whilst he has not fully recovered by any means, things are going better.

So, if you wondered what the master looks like - here you go!

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Welkom terug, Piet!
 
Heinrich said:
I have now just seen a picture on Modelbouwforum which made me very happy. My mentor and friend @pietsan Piet Sanders have lately not been well and have actually stopped his building of the Beagle because of health issues. Therefore, to see Piet back at the bench and in better spirit, makes me a happy camper. Whilst he has not fully recovered by any means, things are going better.

So, if you wondered what the master looks like - here you go!

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Welkom terug, Piet!
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@Heinrich, that is excellent news. I wish Piet the best.

Jan
 
Heinrich said:
I have now just seen a picture on Modelbouwforum which made me very happy. My mentor and friend @pietsan Piet Sanders have lately not been well and have actually stopped his building of the Beagle because of health issues. Therefore, to see Piet back at the bench and in better spirit, makes me a happy camper. Whilst he has not fully recovered by any means, things are going better.

So, if you wondered what the master looks like - here you go!

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Welkom terug, Piet!
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A true craftsman at work. Happy to see it.
 
Heinrich said:
For sure, my friend. Your thoughts are highly appreciated and will be well considered. I am still in the process of reading and re-reading the research results. I most certainly do not agree with everything about the Russian interpretations of how the ship might have looked, but as far as hull shape, the overall height of the rear bulwarks, the steep upwards sweep of the bulwarks and the railings go, I am in full agreement with them.
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The ship could still be displayed with the disclaimer that it is a rendition of the Hoving interpretation. Nothing incorrect about that IMO. ;)
 
RDN1954 said:
True statement...
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Engineers know all the answers may be a true statement, but do they understand the simple questions.

I saw a joking post on Facebook where a young boy asked an adult, who was an engineer, for help to hang a rope on tree limb to make a swing, and got a 10 page instruction manual on what needed to be done with full diagrams, but didn't actually help the young lad hang the rope.
 
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