I agree it‘s about the same for us Germans. I can puzzle my way through Dutch and French. But American English, well ……….I admire what Heinrich is able to do.That's how English looks to us Dutchies...
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I agree it‘s about the same for us Germans. I can puzzle my way through Dutch and French. But American English, well ……….I admire what Heinrich is able to do.That's how English looks to us Dutchies...
Yes boss, right away boss...Ok you all! Finish your coffee, and all back to work!![]()
Wouldn't they have used rope ladders in those days?Good evening, in my opinion, you should also have the maneuver to hoist the ladder on the deck
no rope ladder was there to useWouldn't they have used rope ladders in those days?
Thank you very much for your input Hans. I know that you went through the same ordeal when you were trying to decide where to place the windlass. I agree that shorter spikes might have been made to pass under the roof of the canopy, it would have improved the degrees of operation, but it also meant that the operator would have lost a lot of leverage.Ok you all! Finish your coffee, and all back to work!
It is very difficult to base a 16th/17th century ship on 21st century paintings, so although the paintings are very nice and very well thought out - they are all based on knowledge we have now. So be carefull using them as a definite source.
But one thing is true: a windlass behind the canopy is a better place, as the windlass itself would - in this case - be at a more suitable spot to hoist f.i. the main yard.
But then again - if you make the spikes of the windlass a bit shorter so they can pass underneath the front beam of the canopy (assuming the windlass was at the front) then all of a sudden the operation angle is more then 90 degrees.
I haven't checked if Witsen mentiones a length of the spikes - but also here: Witsen wrote his book almost 100 years later as Willem Barentsz made his attempt to find the northern passage - so if he mentioned the length of the spikes, even then it could have changed a lot.
We do really not know how it was exactly done and placed, and everyone has his own ideas and reasons to do it A or B. That is all okay (also for me as the maker of this kit). I like these discussions, without having a firm fixed and stubborn opinion on it. Both Hoving and the Weerdt have their own vision on the place of the windlass, and I have gone through the same train of thoughts to decide where to place it.
For me the small boats where of much importancy and from the original journal we know they could be placed on deck.
Exactly Frank!Good evening, in my opinion, you should also have the maneuver to hoist the lifeboat on the deck
Oh yes Ron - you can bet your bottom dollar that the Statenjacht will have its own challenges. I am holding all thumbs for you to start your build.Lookin’ good Heinrich
All this talk regarding windlass placement required I look to my upcoming (hopefully) Statenjacht build. Whew, no foremast or canopy for me to worry about. I’m sure I’ll find something else to get my shorts in a twist though.
Great work HeinrichDear Friends
So no good talking about things - let's put it together and see what it looks like.
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I started by putting together the actual windlass (braadspil).
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Then I took some dry shellac and mixed it with the highest-content alcohol I could find (95%).
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Which then resulted in this solution.
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The windlass then received two coats of shellac,
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After which the wood became darker and - I think - created a "warmer" atmosphere.
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Now if you thought that space was at a premium, it gets worse. The whole assembly does not fit into the space behind the foremast. I sacrificed one piece of round wood, by cutting it to a length that would protrude slightly higher than the belaying rack so that I knew exactly where and how deep to file a groove into the belaying rack. Now all fits as it is supposed to.
And then this is what the whole assembly looks like dry-fitted.
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So this where I am tonight. You know me - I don't expect you to pull any punches. Let me hear what you REALLY think - I value your opinion and especially your criticism if any.
@Kolderstok Hans is this what it should look like?
@Ab Hoving Ab I need your opinion here in the only way that you give opinions - from the hip and straight!![]()
Nice finish Heinrich, great workFinal bow assembly - happy!
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And seeing that it's now 04:28 in the morning, I have exactly two hours and 32 minutes before I have to get up.
Thank you very much for the kind words Mark. I fully agree with you - we sometimes get so caught up with that one little thing that occupies our mind that we cant see the forest for the trees!Great looking model Heinrich, always good to see the full-size view from time to time
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Thank you Mark - much appreciated!Nice finish Heinrich, great work![]()