HMAV BOUNTY - A “face lift “

Good morning.

Just a show and tell of before, during and after pics of my project to renovate :cool: His Majesty’s Armed Vessel Bounty.

I have a challenge from my son to do this at a near as possible zero cost.

1: PRE FACE LIFT
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2: “Shredded
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3: Hull :
I got some walnut and Sapele veneer off cuts for no cost- I had to sort through the scrapsROTF.
- Before :
I cut out the stern to create the counters for the transom.
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Planking : I cut these veneer off cuts to 5mm and not longer than 150mm.
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PROGRESS SO FAR:
The stem, sternpost and false keel. I had to paint these black as I could not remove the orange varnish to stain these.
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Cheers Grant

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Completely missed this one until now. The no-budget agreement is very intriguing; I'm anxious to learn how you will be going about with the blocks, ropes and sails, to mention a few.
Daring approach!
 
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Completely missed this one until now. The no-budget agreement is very intriguing; I'm anxious to learn how you will be going about with the blocks, ropes and sails, to mention a few.
Daring approach!
Good morning Johan. Thanks for checking out this project. Hmmmm, sometimes making a bet over a whiskey at a braai is not always the wisest thing to doROTF. When I started this my objective was just to meet this challenge. I never thought she would come out a reasonable rebuild and as I progressed more and more detail and accuracy crept into her. I know I’m going to fail with this challenge at some point. I have plenty rope from previous builds and all the kit blocks from the Victory and Xebec so One never knows. How accurate to scale my rigging will be is another story. NO SAILS!!!ROTF. It is so much fun figuring out how I am going to make the parts and attempting to get them to plan. My scratch skills and scale are,so far, my two biggest downfalls. For some metal parts, hooks, belay pins, bell, decorations I am trying to design on Fusion to be 3D printed but my knowledge here is also a rookie. I just wonder how many failed prints I am going to get. Anyway I am having a total blast. Cheers Grant
 
So either a car or an airplane…
...or motorcycle, or spaceship, or Georgian-style ship model;)
Canoe... canoe fits also
Or a LEGO
Good afternoon Guys. Good options. Jan I have done the Lego during Covid, Star Wars and a Ferrari. I am keen to give a “proper” model a go, a POF with plenty wood work and detail but with no masts or rigging. Seeing how my scratch skills and precision work is evolving with this Bounty renovation I am weary of such a project however I just have to give it a go. I still searching for a decent kit/ model so I am undecided at this point. Cheers Grant
 
Good morning

Cannons : The Bounty was modified to include four 4 pound cannons. Even at 1:50 scale these 4 pounders are smaller than my Xebec (at 1:60) cannons. In fact the Bounty is a small ship and this model is smaller than both the Victory and Xebec.

I used this diagram as a guide for the build and scale. Using left over barrels which I bought for the Xebec meant my barrels are slightly over sized.
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The parts used to build these : Birch wood 2x 1.6 mm strips , kebab dowels, toothpicks, brass strip and wire left overs. I blackened all brass and barrels.
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My cannons - certainly not 100% accurate but close enough for my project. My wire bending still not there yet and the nails I have are also slightly too big. Non the less the challenge continues :rolleyes:.
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I have made 3 so far :B24BFAB1-F524-40A5-9058-BE959E7F8B71.jpeg
And then the c$£k up…
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The cannon is 0.6mm too tall…the barrel touches the top of the port. I did not take into account my deck redo which raised the deck relative to the cannon port…. No redo! Maybe break the wheel axle and raised the wheels at tad…. Or just leave it.
Cheers Grant
 
Good morning

Cannons : The Bounty was modified to include four 4 pound cannons. Even at 1:50 scale these 4 pounders are smaller than my Xebec (at 1:60) cannons. In fact the Bounty is a small ship and this model is smaller than both the Victory and Xebec.

I used this diagram as a guide for the build and scale. Using left over barrels which I bought for the Xebec meant my barrels are slightly over sized.
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The parts used to build these : Birch wood 2x 1.6 mm strips , kebab dowels, toothpicks, brass strip and wire left overs. I blackened all brass and barrels.
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My cannons - certainly not 100% accurate but close enough for my project. My wire bending still not there yet and the nails I have are also slightly too big. Non the less the challenge continues :rolleyes:.
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And then the c$£k up…
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The cannon is 0.6mm too tall…the barrel touches the top of the port. I did not take into account my deck redo which raised the deck relative to the cannon port…. No redo! Maybe break the wheel axle and raised the wheels at tad…. Or just leave it.
Cheers Grant
Nice looking canons, Grant.
Perhaps a little flat spot on the underside of the front wheels ……..:rolleyes: Perhaps no one will know (and see) if I had posted this suggestion in a PM ….. ;)
Regards, Peter
 
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Nice looking canons, Grant.
Perhaps a little flat spot on the underside of the front wheels ……..:rolleyes: Perhaps no one will know (and see) if I had posted this suggestion in a PM ….. ;)
Regards, Peter
Good evening Peter. Flat spot like Max on Sunday ROTF.Thanks Peter. I happy how they came out and I will make a plan one way or the other re the height. Flat spot, print smaller barrels, or lift the wheels. Cheers Grant
 
Hi Grant! The front wheels on the gun carts are typically smaller than the rear wheels. Would that help?

CORRECTION: Jim sorted out my thinking. I have it wrong here Grant. Front wheels are larger and would only make things worse... I'll stay in my lane ROTF.
Good evening Paul. You confused me a tad there… ;) .
. I'll stay in my lane
Maybe in my next life I will manage to get into your ship building lane…..
Cheers Grant
 
Hi Grant,
Not sure if you have seen this in other posts, but the ends of the axle trees are easily rounded to the same size.


I have made several sizes over the years for various scales and truck diameters and found they will last a lifetime (barring losing them, which would not be a first for me :()

As to the guns not fitting into the gun ports the way you want, I would bet many of us have made that mistake at least once. There is no easy fix I can think of but I know it did not ever happen again once a messed up the first time. Measure twice (or 3 or 4 times) and cut once as the saying goes. I know I sure as heck have been more attentive.
Allan
 
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Measure twice (or 3 or 4 times) and cut once as the saying goes. I know I sure as heck have been more attentive.
Good morning Allan. Very wise words. Even with this knowledge I built the carriages with a little too much arrogance :rolleyes: thinking I had it sorted. Lesson learnt :
- Knowledge is understanding to measure 3 or 4 times
- Wisdom is actually measuring 3 or 4 times.
;).
clearly I not the wisest shipbuilding ROTF.
Cheers Grant
 
Good morning Allan. Very wise words. Even with this knowledge I built the carriages with a little too much arrogance :rolleyes: thinking I had it sorted. Lesson learnt :
- Knowledge is understanding to measure 3 or 4 times
- Wisdom is actually measuring 3 or 4 times.
;).
clearly I not the wisest shipbuilding ROTF.
Cheers Grant
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I had to read a lot to get to the last page, between the pictures and a lot of compliments from fellow modelers, I don't believe this is the same ship you have started with. You just bought a new kit and started over! My belate condolances for the loss of your friend and colleague, no words for it really...

Really first class work and your skills have improved enormously. Just wondering how this model would look with sails ....don't you?
 
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