Unboxing Hms Enterprize 1774 1:48 - Modelship Dockyard

Signet said:
My son makes resin 3D parts, and I've had him make small parts, barrels, etc. for me. The actual cost of a quality resin barrel is pennies, and dozens can be made at once with no one in attendance. Brass is more expensive as is the process of machining or casting them. I prefer the heft and sturdiness of brass, but if the sizes and shape are not accurate, would prefer 3D resin.
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Personal/consumer-designed printers shouldn't be compared to commercially used ones. You can imagine that a large company will not use consumer printers. They need to produce thousands if not more of those barrels and such printers will cost a fortune. This one below is more than 10 gran (not the most expensive), and how many of those printers you might need to make large quantities of barrels? What company wants to invest in such equipment?


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Most brass barrels on the market are CNC-turned, not cast. HIS Model makes CNC-turned barrels in a close match.
 
Dear friends. I have read all of your comments on cannon barrels, wood types, what constitutes a "superior model", and at what point of the kit's perceived level of quality, you would be willing to part ways with your dearly beloved 1 200 USD. However, there is one aspect that no one mentioned or paid any attention to.

Do you know what that is? MARKET SIZE.

As most of you know I was intrinsically involved in bringing the only POF Bluenose model in the world (the YuanQing Full-Rib Bluenose) to market in the West. And let us not kid ourselves - for Chinese model manufacturers, the West basically means SOS members, because of internal politics in other forums. please understand that I use "the West" in a very loose fashion, referring to markets outside of China. Over the three/four years that I have been Administrator of the Bluenose Group Build; we have delivered 60-plus kits to our members. In the first month of its release in China, YuanQing sold more than 300 kits - a largely arbitrary number because they were severely hampered by supply issues.

The Chinese market is HUGE and is the primary reason for the existence of Chinese model companies. To most of them selling their kits in the West and gaining acceptance of their models is more of a public relations exercise, which, in turn, boosts their image in China. Therefore, listening and paying attention to our whims and fancies happens only because most of these companies are run by genuine nice guys - not because the Western market determines their success of failure.

So, in summary, you can make all the demands you want, just don't be naive when it comes to those demands being met. ;)
 
My last response here, as I think my comments are being misconstrued. As to the kit which is the subject of this thread, it looks excellent in every way. AllanKP69 asked if the kit included the appropriate size and pattern cannon barrels, as many kits do not. This lead to a discussion as to how important accurate parts are, some no really caring, and others, like Allan and I, wanting to see accurate parts whenever possible. And I still think that expensive kits have an obligation to provide quality parts, and invariably they do. Certainly this one does.

I again apologize that my comments were felt to have questioned the quality of this kit, and that is definitely not the case. But they have corrupted this excellent and informative thread that many, including myself, are very interested in. I won't be posting here again, not wanting to cause further troubles, and will go back and delete my previous posts.
 
Jimsky said:
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As I saw the picture of this printer and read the name ‘CheatBot’ I thought: ‘Yes, that’s the correct name’.:) What can do 1 letter ……
Perhaps I am old fashioned and this is a kind of ‘Generation Conflict’. But once given the ‘cheated parts’ a color, you can't see anymore what the raw material was …….
But I have already cheated myself with some printed parts on my Bluenose and recent model …..:rolleyes:
Forgive me MHO and to be a bit off-topic in the log of this beautiful model.
Regards, Peter
 
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zoly99sask said:
Here is the link to purchase the kit

drydockmodelsandparts.com

Hms Enterprize 1774 1:48 POF Pearwood - Boxwood Decorations - COMING SOON

Shipping is included in the total price!! Please allow 14 - 21 days to fulfill and ship the order!! The product is shipped from China!!
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Hi Zoly,
I just ordered the kit !!! Thank you. Will it be shipped after the Chinese new year celebrations end ? Is the finished ship as the pictures above show with no decking at all, no quarterdeck guns, etc. ? Should I also order the Boxwood Decking for the 1:96. so I can do some partial decking on the 1:48 ?
Thanks...
Alex R
 
Alex R said:
Hi Zoly,
I just ordered the kit !!! Thank you. Will it be shipped after the Chinese new year celebrations end ? Is the finished ship as the pictures above show with no decking at all, no quarterdeck guns, etc. ? Should I also order the Boxwood Decking for the 1:96. so I can do some partial decking on the 1:48 ?
Thanks...
Alex R
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Thank you Akex
There are some decking included in the kit you can see the images in the unboxing.

Additional decking is not available yet but will be soon,I will be posting them here
 
Signet said:
My last response here, as I think my comments are being misconstrued. As to the kit which is the subject of this thread, it looks excellent in every way. AllanKP69 asked if the kit included the appropriate size and pattern cannon barrels, as many kits do not. This lead to a discussion as to how important accurate parts are, some no really caring, and others, like Allan and I, wanting to see accurate parts whenever possible. And I still think that expensive kits have an obligation to provide quality parts, and invariably they do. Certainly this one does."is excellent in every way"

I again apologize that my comments were felt to have questioned the quality of this kit, and that is definitely not the case. But they have corrupted this excellent and informative thread that many, including myself, are very interested in. I won't be posting here again, not wanting to cause further troubles, and will go back and delete my previous posts.
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Hi,
I don't think you have to erase your previous posts. Yes, the discussions were becoming somewhat picky, however, I think this just shows how passionate people are about the hobby. With the rapid pace of kit development, the perfect kit in every respect may just be over the horizon and kit bashing, and after-market parts will not be necessary any more, right ? I doubt it. we are tinkerers, always looking to "improve" and to customize..Look at sport cars-buy a very expensive Porsche, and then spend the real money in customizing it..As long as the base model is quality, customize away, that is your choice. The base model is cool enough for a lot of people..In our hobby, some are passionate about historical accuracy while others are content with the base kit-which is by far "better" to most other kits in the past.
Seems that we all agree that this kit is superb ! A 911 Turbo S, or GT3...but if you want, Mr Ruff would be happy to put you on the waiting list...Money is irrelevant-if you have to ask-you can't afford it.
BTW, I just ordered my 1:48 Enterprize...

This is my 1:48 unfinished CAF Enterprize-several years in the shipyard, but not too long before it is finished. This has been my "practice" kit. made lots of mistakes, learned a lot building it, would not pass scrutiny by any means, but one of my grandchildren is eager for me to finish it so he can have it and take it to School. It will pass scrutiny with most 9th graders...
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zoly99sask said:
I have to ask exactly what parts or accessories are not good quality
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Sorry if I intervene here. In my overall very positive experience with the Hoy, I didn't complain for any part's quality in particular. My point is although keel and frame were outstanding, gig was great and all woods were of 1st quality, etc. some parts had been truly unusable whatever was the outcome the modeller aimed to, very often due to scarce scantling once processed or simply for modest incoherency with plans or assembly process. I guess Signet and other friends here on SoS fear to face an estensive building from scratch instead of a pleasant (and voluntary) bashing work. Giving the number of of parts compared to Hoy's, that's could turn into a serious problem. I'm 56 and I could not have enough life left to have the model finished... LOL.
 
Alex R said:
Hi,
I don't think you have to erase your previous posts. Yes, the discussions were becoming somewhat picky, however, I think this just shows how passionate people are about the hobby. With the rapid pace of kit development, the perfect kit in every respect may just be over the horizon and kit bashing, and after-market parts will not be necessary any more, right ? I doubt it. we are tinkerers, always looking to "improve" and to customize..Look at sport cars-buy a very expensive Porsche, and then spend the real money in customizing it..As long as the base model is quality, customize away, that is your choice. The base model is cool enough for a lot of people..In our hobby, some are passionate about historical accuracy while others are content with the base kit-which is by far "better" to most other kits in the past.
Seems that we all agree that this kit is superb ! A 911 Turbo S, or GT3...but if you want, Mr Ruff would be happy to put you on the waiting list...Money is irrelevant-if you have to ask-you can't afford it.
BTW, I just ordered my 1:48 Enterprize...

This is my 1:48 unfinished CAF Enterprize-several years in the shipyard, but not too long before it is finished. This has been my "practice" kit. made lots of mistakes, learned a lot building it, would not pass scrutiny by any means, but one of my grandchildren is eager for me to finish it so he can have it and take it to School. It will pass scrutiny with most 9th graders...
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It looks great. What flaws you complain for?
 
AMack said:
Just curious has anyone noticed that the CAF Enterprise 1:48 is 840mm long and this 1:48 Enterprise is 960mm in length not sure what is the reason for a difference of 120mm or 5 inches.Cautious
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Interesting point AMack. So which one is more true to scale?
 
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