HMS GRANADO - full hull - POF kit by CAF in 1:48 - by Uwe
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The same effect accurs to shellac and bitumen. I think it was Michele Padoan who uses this.
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I have been searching for a CLOU replacement here in the US after reading so much about it here, and seeing the amazing results on this model. The finish and quality of this model is simply amazing to me. I have found this, sorry to hack the thread…
So 'Clou' is just a standard nitrocellulose sanding sealer then?
You posted correct. "Mylands - cellulose sanding sealer". It's a nitrocellulose sanding sealer, a product favoured by woodturners and woodworkers looking for a fast curing product that highlights timber grain. It would be interesting to see the Clou SDS (safety data sheet) or the MDS (material data sheet) I believe Clou has a site reference on the label for obtaining either/or. From what I gather in referencing the product with other similar brands, Wattyl, Feast Watson, Briwax, etc. it does appear to me to be Standard nitrocellulose based product. I may be wrong as I usually am but perhaps one of the SOS Clou users could post the TDS/SDS/MSDS. It may help to solve the secret. - Cheers and thank you for posting the Mylands photo. made me do some, (actually a lot of) Googling.
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I am working on smaller "learning" models, while I gather materials, tools, etc. before I start my USS Constitution Cross Section. That and I need my house to sell so I can get into a proper workshop again. I cannot even imagine trying to move one of our ships partially assembled. The area to the left of these plans will be a 16' x 25' dedicated model shop, when construction is complete in 3-months.You posted correct. "Mylands - cellulose sanding sealer". It's a nitrocellulose sanding sealer, a product favoured by woodturners and woodworkers looking for a fast curing product that highlights timber grain. It would be interesting to see the Clou SDS (safety data sheet) or the MDS (material data sheet) I believe Clou has a site reference on the label for obtaining either/or. From what I gather in referencing the product with other similar brands, Wattyl, Feast Watson, Briwax, etc. it does appear to me to be Standard nitrocelluloise based product. I may be wrong as I usually am but perhaps one of the SOS Clou users could post the TDS/SDS/MSDS. It may help to solve the secret. - Cheers and thank you for posting the Mylands photo. made me do some, (actually a lot of) Googling.
Here you can find information about the Clou sanding primer.
Technical data sheet
Quick sanding primer
For pre-treating raw or stained wood
for an optimal surface result
1 liter is enough for approx.
8 m² per application
Can be reworked after
1 hour
For indoors
Properties:
Quick-drying, pore-filling, colorless primer
based on nitrocellulose. Can be painted over with CLOU wood varnish
L1, CLOU bale matting L2, CLOU shellac matting L3, CLOU furniture glaze varnish L4, CLOU
Spraymat nitro varnish and AQUA CLOU wood varnish L11.
Areas of application:
For pre-treating raw wood or as an intermediate coat
for stained wood. Suitable for all commercially available
types of wood and veneered chipboard.
Ingredients (according to VdL-RL 01):
Esters, alcohols, special petrol, nitrocellulose, alkyd resins,
aromatic hydrocarbons, additives
Technical data
Density at 20 °C: approx. 0.896 g/cm³ (DIN 51757)
Viscosity: approx. 45 s in a DIN 4 mm cup
Dilution: ready to use
Odor: odorless after drying
Color shades:
colorless
Container sizes:
250 ml and 750 ml
Storage:
Store in a dry and cool place. Protect from frost. Shelf life
in the original sealed container at least 2 years.
Reseal opened containers tightly after use.
Disposal:
Only recycle empty containers. Dispose of liquid
material residues at a collection point for old paint
(EAK number: 08 01 11).
Water hazard class:
WGK 2 (hazardous to water)
Warnings:
Wear suitable protective clothing. Avoid contact with
eyes and skin. Ensure good ventilation during processing
and drying. Do not allow to enter
ground water, waterways or sewage systems.
For further information, see safety data sheet
Technical data sheet
Quick sanding primer
For pre-treating raw or stained wood
for an optimal surface result
1 liter is enough for approx.
8 m² per application
Can be reworked after
1 hour
For indoors
Properties:
Quick-drying, pore-filling, colorless primer
based on nitrocellulose. Can be painted over with CLOU wood varnish
L1, CLOU bale matting L2, CLOU shellac matting L3, CLOU furniture glaze varnish L4, CLOU
Spraymat nitro varnish and AQUA CLOU wood varnish L11.
Areas of application:
For pre-treating raw wood or as an intermediate coat
for stained wood. Suitable for all commercially available
types of wood and veneered chipboard.
Ingredients (according to VdL-RL 01):
Esters, alcohols, special petrol, nitrocellulose, alkyd resins,
aromatic hydrocarbons, additives
Technical data
Density at 20 °C: approx. 0.896 g/cm³ (DIN 51757)
Viscosity: approx. 45 s in a DIN 4 mm cup
Dilution: ready to use
Odor: odorless after drying
Color shades:
colorless
Container sizes:
250 ml and 750 ml
Storage:
Store in a dry and cool place. Protect from frost. Shelf life
in the original sealed container at least 2 years.
Reseal opened containers tightly after use.
Disposal:
Only recycle empty containers. Dispose of liquid
material residues at a collection point for old paint
(EAK number: 08 01 11).
Water hazard class:
WGK 2 (hazardous to water)
Warnings:
Wear suitable protective clothing. Avoid contact with
eyes and skin. Ensure good ventilation during processing
and drying. Do not allow to enter
ground water, waterways or sewage systems.
For further information, see safety data sheet
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That is beyond helpful. Thank you for taking the time to find and translate that!!!!
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That is similar - probably very similar to the Mylands version
I also use Clou, but a slightly different product. Clou ball matting, it's very similar.
Ball matting
For a silky-glossy, pleasantly
grip wooden surfaces
4
1 liter is enough for approx.
12 m² per application
Can be reworked after
4 hours
For indoors
Properties:
Very thin, quick-drying ball matting based on
nitrocellulose. Dries during application
and does not stick. Produces a protected, silky-feeling, smooth surface
Areas of application:
For a silky-glossy coating of wooden surfaces subject to normal wear, e.g. for wood turning, musical instruments or small furniture. Only use indoors. Ingredients (according to VdL-RL 01):
Nitrocellulose, synthetic resin combination, esters, alcohols,
petrols, additives
Technical data
Density at 20 °C: approx. 0.870 g/cm³ (DIN 51757)
Viscosity: approx. 13 s in DIN 4 mm cup
Dilution: CLOU Thinner V1
Odor: odorless after complete drying
Container sizes:
250 ml and 750 ml
Storage:
Store in a dry and cool place. Protect from frost. Shelf life
in the original sealed container at least 5 years.
Reseal opened containers tightly after use.
Disposal:
Only recycle empty containers. Dispose of liquid
material residues at a collection point for old paint
(EAK number: 08 01 11).
Water hazard class:
WGK 2 (hazardous to water)
Warnings:
Wear suitable protective clothing. Avoid contact with
eyes and skin. Ensure good ventilation during processing
and drying. Do not allow to enter
ground water, waterways or sewage systems.
For further information, see safety data sheet
Ball matting
For a silky-glossy, pleasantly
grip wooden surfaces
4
1 liter is enough for approx.
12 m² per application
Can be reworked after
4 hours
For indoors
Properties:
Very thin, quick-drying ball matting based on
nitrocellulose. Dries during application
and does not stick. Produces a protected, silky-feeling, smooth surface
Areas of application:
For a silky-glossy coating of wooden surfaces subject to normal wear, e.g. for wood turning, musical instruments or small furniture. Only use indoors. Ingredients (according to VdL-RL 01):
Nitrocellulose, synthetic resin combination, esters, alcohols,
petrols, additives
Technical data
Density at 20 °C: approx. 0.870 g/cm³ (DIN 51757)
Viscosity: approx. 13 s in DIN 4 mm cup
Dilution: CLOU Thinner V1
Odor: odorless after complete drying
Container sizes:
250 ml and 750 ml
Storage:
Store in a dry and cool place. Protect from frost. Shelf life
in the original sealed container at least 5 years.
Reseal opened containers tightly after use.
Disposal:
Only recycle empty containers. Dispose of liquid
material residues at a collection point for old paint
(EAK number: 08 01 11).
Water hazard class:
WGK 2 (hazardous to water)
Warnings:
Wear suitable protective clothing. Avoid contact with
eyes and skin. Ensure good ventilation during processing
and drying. Do not allow to enter
ground water, waterways or sewage systems.
For further information, see safety data sheet
Tobias! wow, excellent comeback post. That's exemplary!. the information data says its a fast drying product nitrocellulose based etc. Like others I mentioned previously it is supplied RFU (ready for use) fills and highlights the grain and can be overcoated with numerous other top coats. Thank you Tobias, issue solved.
Tobias, what translation service do you use? very impressive indeed.
Hello @ConsNZ I use Google Translate, for both Clou products it says that it should be diluted. With Clou Dilution V1
CLOU V1 thinner for thinning paints L2, L3 and L4.
Safety instructions
Hazard labeling in accordance with Regulation (EC) No. 1272/2008
GHS-pictogram-flamme.svg
Signal word:
Danger
Hazard statements:
H225 Highly flammable liquid and vapor.
H318 Causes serious eye damage.
Safety instructions:
P101 If medical advice is needed, have product container or label at hand.
P102 Keep out of the reach of children.
P210 Keep away from heat, hot surfaces, sparks, open flames and other ignition sources. No smoking.
P233 Keep container tightly closed.
P241 Use explosion-proof equipment.
P243 Take precautions against electrostatic discharge.
P280 Wear protective gloves/eye protection.
P305+P351+P338 IF IN EYES: Rinse cautiously with water for several minutes. Remove contact lenses if possible. Continue rinsing.
P310 Immediately call a POISON CENTER/doctor.
P370+P378 In case of fire: Use to extinguish: CO2, sand, dry chemical.
P501 Dispose of contents/container in accordance with local/regional/national/international regulations.
I'm glad if I could help and Uwe @Uwek sorry for all the information in your construction log.
CLOU V1 thinner for thinning paints L2, L3 and L4.
Safety instructions
Hazard labeling in accordance with Regulation (EC) No. 1272/2008
GHS-pictogram-flamme.svg
Signal word:
Danger
Hazard statements:
H225 Highly flammable liquid and vapor.
H318 Causes serious eye damage.
Safety instructions:
P101 If medical advice is needed, have product container or label at hand.
P102 Keep out of the reach of children.
P210 Keep away from heat, hot surfaces, sparks, open flames and other ignition sources. No smoking.
P233 Keep container tightly closed.
P241 Use explosion-proof equipment.
P243 Take precautions against electrostatic discharge.
P280 Wear protective gloves/eye protection.
P305+P351+P338 IF IN EYES: Rinse cautiously with water for several minutes. Remove contact lenses if possible. Continue rinsing.
P310 Immediately call a POISON CENTER/doctor.
P370+P378 In case of fire: Use to extinguish: CO2, sand, dry chemical.
P501 Dispose of contents/container in accordance with local/regional/national/international regulations.
I'm glad if I could help and Uwe @Uwek sorry for all the information in your construction log.
Uwek, also my apologies for interrupting your admirable build.
