HMS Ontario 1780 scale 1:32 POB full version

zoly99sask · Nov 11, 2019

NMBROOK said:
Yes Zolly,shape a piece of scrap wood to sit on the deck and against the bulwark.Drill a hole through the block at the required angle.You can then drill from inside using the block as a drilling guide.This is all dependant on how much space/angle you have to get the drill in.You may have to use a pinvise.I certainly would try and go from the inside out as going the other way you are asking for misalignment in relation to the deck

Kind Regards

Nigel

My concern is that the exit holes are not going to be lined up outside of the hull as maybe I won’t get the right angle for all the scuppers.

Jimsky · Nov 11, 2019

zoly99sask said:
My concern is that the exit holes are not going to be lined up outside of the hull as maybe I won’t get the right angle for all the scuppers.

I hear you Zoly..., then, using the jig Nigel describes in previous post, drill the hole inside the bulwark\waterway just half way thru, and another hole outside. I suspect you will use copper\brass tube for the scuppers?

zoly99sask · Nov 11, 2019

Jimsky said:
I hear you Zoly..., then, using the jig Nigel describes in previous post, drill the hole inside the bulwark\waterway just half way thru, and another hole outside. I suspect you will use copper\brass tube for the scuppers?

So a dummy holes both sides but not completely through and place blackened brass tubes in holes,not sure if they had tubes in there

Jimsky · Nov 11, 2019

If it does have tubes, those were made from lead (i think), same as the Haws holes. Take a look the diagram below.

zoly99sask · Nov 11, 2019

Jimsky said:
If it does have tubes, those were made from lead (i think), same as the Haws holes. Take a look the diagram below.

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Well lets see what others saying about the scuppers

NMBROOK · Nov 11, 2019

Jimsky said:
If it does have tubes, those were made from lead (i think), same as the Haws holes. Take a look the diagram below.

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Jim this drawing is for a modern steel hulled vessel

Kind Regards

Nigel

NMBROOK · Nov 11, 2019

Zolly. I will look at Godwin’s book when I get home.Many variations depending on nationality and period.I know what they are like on Saint Philippe but that is no good to you

Kind Regards

Nigel

Jimsky · Nov 11, 2019

NMBROOK said:
Jim this drawing is for a modern steel-hulled vessel

Thanks, Nigel! Yes, I am aware that it is steel. I did find another sketch. While it doesn't belong to a specific ship, it does give an idea. Lead openings were used in 16-19th Centuries. Imitate with blackened brass is possible.

zoly99sask · Nov 11, 2019

Thanks guys, I need to find an image how this hole looks like or covered outside

Maarten · Nov 11, 2019

Hi Zoly I have used cable sleeves for this, these are from silver so you can color them with egg yoke to look like lead.

These are available in all different sizes.

The outside in my RC is fitted with carvings but guess that wont be the case in your man of war.

NMBROOK · Nov 14, 2019

Hi Zolly

A little later than promised due to a hectic week at work.From Peter Goodwin's book

Kind Regards

Nigel

DocBlake · Nov 14, 2019

I think the dummy holes inboard and outboard are the way to go. No need to make sure they are exactly aligned. No one will know they aren't through and through.

donfarr · Nov 14, 2019

Hi ZOLY, I HATE TO GIVE SOMEONE AS GOOD AS YOU SOME ADVICE, BUT BECAUSE AT MY SKILL LEVEL I HAVE TO REMOVE ITEMS A GREAT DEAL, MY METHOD FOR BOTH CA AND PVA GLUE IS THIS GET SOME NAIL POLISH REMOVER IT MUST BE 100% ACOTONE USE A COTTON SWAB RUB IT ON THE JOINT AND CAREFULY WITH AN XACTO BLADE START PRYING IT LOOSE, YOU MAY HAVE TO DO THIS A FEW TIMES UNTIL IT COMES LOOSE, IT WILL NOT DAMAGE THE WOOD OR DISCOLOR IT, TAKE IT FROM ME IT WORKS HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. Don TRY IT ON A PIECE OF SCRAP

Jimsky · Nov 14, 2019

NMBROOK said:
A little later than promised due to a hectic week at work.From Peter Goodwin's book

Great information, Nigel. Thanks for taking time and researching. Thumbs-Up

zoly99sask · Nov 14, 2019

NMBROOK said:
Hi Zolly

A little later than promised due to a hectic week at work.From Peter Goodwin's book

Kind Regards

Nigel

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Thank you Nigel!!

zoly99sask · Nov 14, 2019

DocBlake said:
I think the dummy holes inboard and outboard are the way to go. No need to make sure they are exactly aligned. No one will know they aren't through and through.

This is the way I am going.

zoly99sask · Nov 14, 2019

donfarr said:
Hi ZOLY, I HATE TO GIVE SOMEONE AS GOOD AS YOU SOME ADVICE, BUT BECAUSE AT MY SKILL LEVEL I HAVE TO REMOVE ITEMS A GREAT DEAL, MY METHOD FOR BOTH CA AND PVA GLUE IS THIS GET SOME NAIL POLISH REMOVER IT MUST BE 100% ACOTONE USE A COTTON SWAB RUB IT ON THE JOINT AND CAREFULY WITH AN XACTO BLADE START PRYING IT LOOSE, YOU MAY HAVE TO DO THIS A FEW TIMES UNTIL IT COMES LOOSE, IT WILL NOT DAMAGE THE WOOD OR DISCOLOR IT, TAKE IT FROM ME IT WORKS HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. Don TRY IT ON A PIECE OF SCRAP

Hi Don,I have chosen not to remove the waterways ,I sanded it down to half thickness

zoly99sask · Nov 18, 2019

Hello everyone ,I had a little fun cutting out this doorway ,first I drilled a bunch of holes inside the line then rest of the door and chipped the pieces of with a mini plier ,after I used my Permagrit files to sand it to the correct shape.