HMS Sovereign of the Seas - Bashing DeAgostini Beyond Believable Boundaries

More of the middle gun deck was laid down today. The masking tape pull method was used to cut deck sections to the correct shape, then the edges are trimmed to fit around the electrical wiring and glued to the support structure with CA glue, then reinforced with PVA glue at the edges. Thin brass pins were used where necessary to hold the false deck sections to the structure until the glue dried. careful planning and fitting of the deck parts, and careful cutting of openings will pay off with later in the form of a smooth deck when the planking is added.

The starboard strip of false deck was glued down first.
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Here's how I cut irregular shapes of deck plywood. Lay masking tape over the area of interest and traces the edges of the deck section you want to make with a pencil.
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Pull the tape from the model and lay it onto the plywood.
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Cut the pattern with the band saw.
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This the piece. It fits surprising close to the final shape.
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Remove the tape, and test fit the piece with the stained side down. Trim edges and cut hatch and ladderway holes or mast hole as necessary.
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Apply CA glue to the structure, and press the part into place, using a pin pusher with fine Amati brass pins to hold areas that want to pop up. When the glue is dried, pull the pins. PVA was used to fill the gaps between the deck sections to anchor the wiring and reinforce the deck.
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Assembling a ladder from a 12mm Amati ladder kit. The ladder was cut to length, sanded and stained with dark walnut Danish Oil.
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View of the bottom of a center deck section. Small 1.5mm sticks of stained basswood are used to reinforce and add detail to the opening, and also serve to strengthen the place where the ladder is glued.
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Applied CA glue to the deck structure. Single 24 gage wires could be laid over with plywood without needed to be submerged into the wood because they were so small. Most wiring was routed along beam between edges deck sections.
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PVA glue was use to fill most of the gaps to add strength. None the remaining gaps in the false deck are wide enough to affect the tanganyika strips of planking that will be layered over the top of the false deck.
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The false deck was completed for the middle gun deck. The hole in the deck for the bowsprit was carefully cut and filed to fit when the dowel with the bowsprit was inserted. I am debating abandoning making the vertical hole in the hull for the camera, because of the low quality of the video that the camera produces in the low lighting conditions of the interior decks. However, the deck can be viewed through the forward most gun ports and the outboard stern chaser gun ports, all of which can be fittings with working hinges. I took a few cell phone pictures through the gun ports, which are rather dark and poor quality, but the view is many times better using the naked eye. Viewing the details by eye was the original reason for adding interior details and creates the illusion of looking at a real ship's gun deck.

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Cell phone pictures with ship's interior lights only.
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This is a very clever means of routing your wiring, Kurt.
Thanks HH. It's the only way I could hide the wiring. On larger ships like Olha's Ragussa carrack, the beams are large enough to embed the wiring in the beams. The beams and carlings on the Sovereign are only 3mm wide and the carlings are not thick. Using thin 24g wire and routing the wires between section of the false deck helps.
 
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Today some tanganika strips for deck planking were prepared by staining one edge using a brown Sharpie pen. Also, a soldering iron tip was modified to create a tool for burning markings to simulate trenails in the hull. This is the same technique Paul used on his model of Wasa. Instead of silver soldering a hypodermic needle to a soldering tip, I took a pointed soldering tip, filed the sharp point off the end, center punched the center of the end. then filed the perimeter to reduce the diameter. A small drill bit was used to make the hole a tiny bit deeper. The would make a perfect burn ring in wood. I set the temperature too 559 deg F, which is 100 degrees higher than the 451 deg F at which wood burns. Then I tried it out on a strip of mahogany. Works perfectly! Nice, round, clear burn marks. I can make them lighter by holding the iron to the wood for less time. This tool will really come in hand later. Thanks to Paul Kattner for the idea. I will paint this test strip to see if the marks will be visible on the hull when the bottom is covered with "white stuff".

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Today some tanganika strips for deck planking were prepared by staining one edge using a brown Sharpie pen. Also, a soldering iron tip was modified to create a tool for burning markings to simulate trenails in the hull. This is the same technique Paul used on his model of Wasa. Instead of silver soldering a hypodermic needle to a soldering tip, I took a pointed soldering tip, filed the sharp point off the end, center punched the center of the end. then filed the perimeter to reduce the diameter. A small drill bit was used to make the hole a tiny bit deeper. The would make a perfect burn ring in wood. I set the temperature too 559 deg F, which is 100 degrees higher than the 451 deg F at which wood burns. Then I tried it out on a strip of mahogany. Works perfectly! Nice, round, clear burn marks. I can make them lighter by holding the iron to the wood for less time. This tool will really come in hand later. Thanks to Paul Kattner for the idea. I will paint this test strip to see if the marks will be visible on the hull when the bottom is covered with "white stuff".

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A interesting technique burning treenails Kurt, I'll have to try this. Like all clever ideas it's a big help to other builders, passed from one modeller to another and so on.
Also, I like those interior photos you took they create a dark and eerie atmosphere.
 
Cool Kurt!

To be fair - I first saw this technique on one of Maarten's builds - I simply appropriated it and then adapted it for my hands (as have you). Use this in a well ventilated area - the fumes from scorched wood can be overwhelming. And don't burn down the house.
I detected no fumes. How big is your model? 1:1 scale?
 
Kurt, somehow I quit getting notifications on your work. You’re doing an amazing job. Do you happen to know if retrieval rigging for guns is the same as the ones to snug the gun up to the hull on Continental ships?
 
Kurt, somehow I quit getting notifications on your work. You’re doing an amazing job. Do you happen to know if retrieval rigging for guns is the same as the ones to snug the gun up to the hull on Continental ships?
This happens to me for all the builds I follow. I don't understand it. I've un-subscribed/re-subscribed. It makes no difference, really. I may get one update, afterwards, and then nothing.
 
Kurt, somehow I quit getting notifications on your work. You’re doing an amazing job. Do you happen to know if retrieval rigging for guns is the same as the ones to snug the gun up to the hull on Continental ships?
I think you are talking about gun tackles, which draw the carriage forward in preparation to fire, and train tackles, which are hooked to the rear end of the carriage and also to a ring bolt on the deck, and are for drawing the carriage rearward. The time period had as much to do with where the gun tackles were hooked on the carriage, and how many train tackles (1 or 2) were used, or if train tackles were used at all. In HMS Sovereign of the Seas, the train tackles are not fitted, since there is no evidence they were in use that far back in time. If the gun had to be angled to the right or left, the carriage could be rotated with the assistance of a gun tackle which was unhooked from the bulwark and attached to a deck ring behind the carriage, and the use of iron bars as levers to slide the rear end of the carriage right or left.

The Arming and Fitting of English Ships of War 1600-1815 had this to say about train tackles. The purpose of the train tackle was to prevent the gun from running itself out when the ship was heeling to that side. It is not known when train tackles came into being, but 17th century ships do not have ringbolts on the deck behind the carriages for them to have been used, although the carriages had ring fittings at the rear. Even in the 18th century, there was a method used to keep the guns from rolling forward when the ship heeled in that direction but using one of the two gun tackles routed to the rear of the carriage to a ringbolt and not using a dedicated train tackle at all. By the 1780's three tackles were issued for each gun, two for the gun tackles, and one for the train tackle.

So that is what was said for English ships. I don't have an answer for you regarding continental ships, but there may be some passage in one of my books somewhere. I'll need more time to look into it.
 
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Very good discussion of the British gun tackle, Kurt. I’ve seen pictures of Continental guns with two train tackles attached along with the gun tackles. The train tackles were attached to eyebolts.
 
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