Oops. Perhaps there is enough gloss lacquer in the Alclad that it won't make any difference.
HMS Sovereign of the Seas - Bashing DeAgostini Beyond Believable Boundaries
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These metal cote paints are like alchemy and very fickle about what you use as a base. I would try one cannon before doing the lot.It is the gloss base that produces the sheen.
I think your definitely on track for some spectacular canons Kurt. With just the primer they look great, with the alclad they look even better, both would do well 'as is' in my book but considering Nigels suggestion of a gloss base could well make them over the top.
OK, I'll get some glass black to use as a base coat for the Alclad II for that test barrel. I received the Rub'n Buff today and am waiting on some graphite for the other test barrel.
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Your best bet is to use the Alcad gloss black base. Eliminates any chance of reaction
First test barrel. Alclad II copper was airbrushed onto the acrylic flat black barrel just to see what would happen. The copper coverage was heavier than earlier recommended, and it didn't burst into flames from not having the gloss black as a base. Spraying a thinner coat of copper will produce an overall darker color. i just need to learn more airbrush control.
Because the coverage was a bit heavy on this first try, some black panel liner was applied, and BOOM! Instant awesome. The details popped out. The cast tudor crown and rose are actually visible on this small scale now. Even the touchhole came out, and was not clogged with paint.
Because the coverage was a bit heavy on this first try, some black panel liner was applied, and BOOM! Instant awesome. The details popped out. The cast tudor crown and rose are actually visible on this small scale now. Even the touchhole came out, and was not clogged with paint.
Nice!
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Hey Kurt, I'd like to clarify something to save you any grief. The application of graphite and the application of Antique Gold Rub n Buff were two separate applications, not used together.
Both start with a flat black painted gun.
Graphite was used; rubbed onto a flat black gun to achieve a historical BLACK iron cannon.
Rub n Buff was used; rubbed onto a flat black gun to achieve a historical BRONZE cannon.
Just don't want to see you waste your time and effort mate!
Really looking forward to your test results.
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Looks like the air brush, with a finer mist, preserved much more detail than the rattle can.
Yes, I am amazed at the difference. The metallic particles in Alclad II are SO MUCH finer than average spray paint. Great stuff!Looks like the air brush, with a finer mist, preserved much more detail than the rattle can.
Oh. That really changes things! Thanks for the clarification. I guess I didn't need the graphite I bought, but perhaps it could be used on guns for USS Rattlesnake. The work on test barrel using the Rub'n Buff can be started now, because the Rub'n Buff just came in the mail.
Here is the result using Rub'n Buff gold next to the Alclad II Bronze accented with black panel liner. The gold is a bit more reflective than the photo shows. Which do you guys prefer?
Alclad hands down.
By reaction, I mean chemical reaction and paint crazing as I am sure Alclad is cellulose based
The one on the left
Left all day...
You know what Kurt, I like the Alclad version that much, I will use it on my Soleil Royal cannons.I was thinking of going the verdigris route but think it my jar with the rest of the model
They gold would look spectacular on the Soleil Royal. I'm leaning toward the bronze for HMS Sovereign of the Seas. The gold would clash with the guns on the lower and middle gun decks if used at this point. I like how the panel liner brings out the details. I tried panel liner on the Rub'n Buff but it dissolves the gold readily and begins to expose the primer underneath, and does not just flow to the corners like it's supposed to.
The Rub'n Buff will be used on the Sovereign's hull carvings, though, since it does not blur details. The gold paste leaves a micro-thin metallic layer and preserves detail, and extra luster is added with gentle buffing with soft cotton or the soft foam tipped tools that come with it. Both finished are a huge improvement over conventional spray paint!
Only snag with Rub'n'Buff is it can rub off.I tried it years ago and found it too delicate a finish although looked fabulous after application. I remember a Guy scratch building Royal Louis and he used it, he had a lot of issues with the finish rubbing off when he touched the carvings whilst working on the ship.
It wouldn't matter if you only had say a figurehead that could go on last, but as we both know, you have one or two more carvings than that
It wouldn't matter if you only had say a figurehead that could go on last, but as we both know, you have one or two more carvings than that
