That's something I'll have to try with brass parts. When the brass black is used full strength, it builds an oxide layer quickly, but it tends to be soft and flake off sometimes.
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Can anyone point me the way to the color and style of the interior stern cabins for the Sovereign? I am looking for ideas on how to furnish the inside, such as what colors would be there in an early 17th century man of war like this one. I'm pretty sure no one knows what the inside of the Sovereign looked like, so I'm looking for ideas for interior decorating. I have lots of detailed pictures of Doris Obručová's scratch built interior, but don't know whether or not her design was based on any historical example from this time period or not. Perhaps the Wasa can provide some context. Perhaps pictures on interiors of Baroque era buildings can yield some ideas. Anyhow, If you guys have any ideas how you would do the interior, I'd love to hear them so I have something to start off with.
Can anyone point me the way to the color and style of the interior stern cabins for the Sovereign? I am looking for ideas on how to furnish the inside, such as what colors would be there in an early 17th century man of war like this one. I'm pretty sure no one knows what the inside of the Sovereign looked like, so I'm looking for ideas for interior decorating. I have lots of detailed pictures of Doris Obručová's scratch built interior, but don't know whether or not her design was based on any historical example from this time period or not. Perhaps the Wasa can provide some context. Perhaps pictures on interiors of Baroque era buildings can yield some ideas. Anyhow, If you guys have any ideas how you would do the interior, I'd love to hear them so I have something to start off with.
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From my notes...
Perhaps more helpful:
https://docslib.org/doc/7773536/the-sovereigns-cabin (keep clicking show more pages)
Possible leads:
A Room within a Room: The Great Cabin on Vasa (Simon Elgar) | the Digital Archaeological Record
This is an abstract from the session entitled "Expressions of Social Space and Identity: Interior Furnishings and Clothing from the Swedish Warship Vasa of 1628." , at the 2020 annual meeting of the Society for Historical Archaeology. The interior of the great cabin was a completely separate...
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Very helpful! That's a good start. So the interior can remain in wood tones, but for the King's flagship, I imagine he would have the upper and lower stern cabins luxuriously furnished. Anyone have examples of such cabin furniture? Would it have been as opulent as the Baroque furnishings in manors and palaces of the time?From my notes...
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Perhaps more helpful:
https://docslib.org/doc/7773536/the-sovereigns-cabin (keep clicking show more pages)
Possible leads:
A Room within a Room: The Great Cabin on Vasa (Simon Elgar) | the Digital Archaeological Record
This is an abstract from the session entitled "Expressions of Social Space and Identity: Interior Furnishings and Clothing from the Swedish Warship Vasa of 1628." , at the 2020 annual meeting of the Society for Historical Archaeology. The interior of the great cabin was a completely separate...
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Really good work Kurt, I really like the overall appearance and the wood tones looks so right on this particular vessel.
Regarding the Cabins. There was a colour cutaway drawing of the Sots kicking about on the net.It shows the cabins panelled in timber colour but the panels were two high as opposed to one panel high. This fits in with the country houses I have visited built around this time.
I suggest Googling English country houses of the period for further inspiration. This vessel was a money pit, I can't see them scrimping on the cabins
Kind regards
Nigel
Regarding the Cabins. There was a colour cutaway drawing of the Sots kicking about on the net.It shows the cabins panelled in timber colour but the panels were two high as opposed to one panel high. This fits in with the country houses I have visited built around this time.
I suggest Googling English country houses of the period for further inspiration. This vessel was a money pit, I can't see them scrimping on the cabins
Kind regards
Nigel
Let me know if you find that color drawing. A search turned up nothing for me. Can you post a couple pictures of the English cottage interior so I can understand what you mean by "two panels high"?
Is this what you mean? There is a wainscot panel with a taller upper panel above it.
Thanks Nigel!
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You think I should go THIS far doing the interior stern cabin? 
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You think should go THIS far doing the interior stern cabin?
Perhaps a little too far Kurt
Where is this a picture of?
English mansion, got more than a little Frenchy in the styling because it was inspired by Versailles.Perhaps a little too far Kurt
That's a bit too late in style, well over 100 years in fact, and you KNOW how trendy style can be. What I took away from the Royal Caroline build was the desire to make a lavish interior in miniature. Paper color printouts of paintings on wall panels are just the beginning. Making detailed, realistic looking baroque furniture at 1:78 scale is going to be a real challenge.
Yes, my initial thoughts were Royal Pavillion in Brighton.
I have been there and the architecture and decor deliberately reflects the styles from all around the world.
In your image, the circular " bosses" in the centre of the panels is French Baroque, not English.
I have done a drawing of the Panelling from memory that was shown in the cutaway illustration, taken a pic on my iPhone and mailed it to myself but currently it is floating in cyberspace
I have been there and the architecture and decor deliberately reflects the styles from all around the world.
In your image, the circular " bosses" in the centre of the panels is French Baroque, not English.
I have done a drawing of the Panelling from memory that was shown in the cutaway illustration, taken a pic on my iPhone and mailed it to myself but currently it is floating in cyberspace
Hi Kurt,Yes Royal Caroline is Georgian style and too late.
I would google for 17th century English palaces and country houses and interior design.
The palace of Charles the 1st is unfortunately no more, burned down in 1698.
See below some examples for eraly 17th century English stately homes.
As the king was highly involved in building SotS you would expect he would have had a major contributions to the ships state rooms.
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Hi Kurt, see if something inspires you, I'm a ship's interior wallLet me know if you find that color drawing. A search turned up nothing for me. Can you post a couple pictures of the English cottage interior so I can understand what you mean by "two panels high"?
Is this what you mean? There is a wainscot panel with a taller upper panel above it.
Thanks Nigel!
Finally my sketch has appeared
This is how I remember the cabin walls in the cutaway drawing
This is how I remember the cabin walls in the cutaway drawing
For those who have never been there, including me, here is the Royal Pavilion:Yes, my initial thoughts were Royal Pavillion in Brighton.
I have been there and the architecture and decor deliberately reflects the styles from all around the world.
In your image, the circular " bosses" in the centre of the panels is French Baroque, not English.
I have done a drawing of the Panelling from memory that was shown in the cutaway illustration, taken a pic on my iPhone and mailed it to myself but currently it is floating in cyberspace
The cabinet pattern looks good, and portraits and other painting in between look easy enough to make on a small scale level. Doris Obručová had a neat approach as to how to achieve the panels using textured vinyl:
