Will gloss black allow the gold paint to be a little more smooth and reflective as opposed to flat black?I have read that with ALCLAD you always want to start with a base coat of gloss black
Did this this morning so you could get some idea of what I said. No resin cannon was ruined or destroyed in the venture. Using a tin from my ropewalk and left over Tamiya paints from previous plastic models. Pic 1 tin cleaned with dry cloth.ConsNZ, like I posted earlier, I am a rank amateur at spray painting. So, please.. don't hesitate to offer advice. I welcome it. Hell, I was begging for it. Each of us are skilled in different ways, and also have areas that need improvement. People's methods will be different, and one may think them contradictory, but they all work for them. I'll get some black primer, try your method out, and go with thin coats, because that's one thing I know I need to improve on, being admittedly impatient when it comes to painting. I'm sure the results will be better. Thanks for being brave enough to offer your advice. When other members like yourself do, that's when I truly learn. It sure beats all the redo's. The barrels can be stripped of paint easily and redone. For this step, getting the right paint and the right technique are key for someone who has no idea how to paint or use an airbrush. Thanks again
Pic2 Sanded down after a light coating of Tamiya Gloss BlackDid this this morning so you could get some idea of what I said. No resin cannon was ruined or destroyed in the venture. Using a tin from my ropewalk and left over Tamiya paints from previous plastic models. Pic 1 tin cleaned with dry cloth.
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This will help immensely in air improving air brushing:Pic 4 Close-up as what would be the over all effect. Bronze in this case would appear much better. Hope this helps and gives you an idea that may be helpful in your project. All the Best.
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The black peeks through the dark copper enough to provide some texture and depth as well as darker areas. Is the copper paint just a very thin, light coat? I imagine you have to stop from adding too much copper, or leaving too little, and achieve a balance.Pic 4 Close-up as what would be the over all effect. Bronze in this case would appear much better. Hope this helps and gives you an idea that may be helpful in your project. All the Best.
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I need to practice with the air brush until I can be consistent with that stroke method. Watching how much control that fellow had while sketching was amazing.This will help immensely in air improving air brushing:
Very light translucent layers. Judge after the coating dries. Colour and opacity changes slightly subject to drying method. Your eye will tell you when it's the effect you desire. I've never seen new or aged bronze cannon so I can't elaborate on end result colour.The black peeks through the dark copper enough to provide some texture and depth as well as darker areas. Is the copper paint just a very thin, light coat? I imagine you have to stop from adding too much copper, or leaving too little, and achieve a balance.
My pleasure. In turn I've learnt so much by lurking around your posts and those of others. All you need is an old brown cardboard box to use as a surface, spray with water, wetting the surface with the spray will be an adequate guide to any progress. No need to waste good paint and related solvent(s) when water will teach and guide your strokes. - Just sooo pleased I can have some input.I need to practice with the air brush until I can be consistent with that stroke method. Watching how much control that fellow had while sketching was amazing.
Thanks ConsNZ!
Wow! that's a great idea! No wasted paint!My pleasure. In turn I've learnt so much by lurking around your posts and those of others. All you need is an old brown cardboard box to use as a surface, spray with water, wetting the surface with the spray will be an adequate guide to any progress. No need to waste good paint and related solvent(s) when water will teach and guide your strokes. - Just sooo pleased I can have some input.
I love the final effect this method produces. How long can Buff& Rub be expected to last many years if it is carnuba wax based, as opposed to hard enamel?Kurt, painting is not a strength of mine either. My default mode in building is to test well in advance of needing to do so. So even though I will not be building any artillery any time soon I need to be confident in my approach so I can hit the ground running.
I too have Kris's printed barrels for my Le Fleuron, just to test how to best treat them to a finish I find acceptable. With that said, below are some results I've found acceptable.
All of the barrels barrels tested below had their paint applied with brushes.
All Barrels: First primed with Testors based gray primer, diluted 1:2 (primer:mineral spirits).
All Barrels: Painted with Testors Flat Black oil, thinned by eye. (not measured).
Iron Guns: once the Flat Black dried, I tossed the barrel into a Ziploc bag full of graphite powder. Gave it a good shake, removed, shook off excess and then rubbed gently with a lint free soft cloth. I'm not sure yet if I will apply any type of finish to protect it. I need to do some more research.
Bronze Guns: After Flat Black dried, I applied the Rub N Buff, Antique Gold. I made my choice from a number of metallic finishes offered. I didn't want to buy 5 colors only to use one of them. They are not cheap. The Amazon link is below. Hope this helps.
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Sorry, Kurt for highjacking your thread...Wow Jim. One question, not to highjack Kurt's thread. Is your gun brass based? I may need to test more as there are miles between your finish and what I was able to achieve. Very nice!
They look awesome. I especially like the Antique Gold effect and would certainly try this method but I only have 4xLombard cannons for the AL Santa Maria 1/65 so a bit costly but very much worth noting for future reference. Thank you for this post Mr Hoss.Kurt, painting is not a strength of mine either. My default mode in building is to test well in advance of needing to do so. So even though I will not be building any artillery any time soon I need to be confident in my approach so I can hit the ground running.
I too have Kris's printed barrels for my Le Fleuron, just to test how to best treat them to a finish I find acceptable. With that said, below are some results I've found acceptable.
All of the barrels barrels tested below had their paint applied with brushes.
All Barrels: First primed with Testors based gray primer, diluted 1:2 (primer:mineral spirits).
All Barrels: Painted with Testors Flat Black oil, thinned by eye. (not measured).
Iron Guns: once the Flat Black dried, I tossed the barrel into a Ziploc bag full of graphite powder. Gave it a good shake, removed, shook off excess and then rubbed gently with a lint free soft cloth. I'm not sure yet if I will apply any type of finish to protect it. I need to do some more research.
Bronze Guns: After Flat Black dried, I applied the Rub N Buff, Antique Gold. I made my choice from a number of metallic finishes offered. I didn't want to buy 5 colors only to use one of them. They are not cheap. The Amazon link is below. Hope this helps.
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