HMS Sovereign of the Seas - Bashing DeAgostini Beyond Believable Boundaries

Witaj Kurt ja też mam lufy od Szkutnika malowałem je pędzlem farbką akrylową metaliczną beż podkładu jest nipotrzebny ja uzywalem tej ciemniejszej na mojej la belle poule .Podklad daję pod zdobienia 20221220_135023.jpg Pozdrawiam Mirek .
 
ConsNZ, like I posted earlier, I am a rank amateur at spray painting. So, please.. don't hesitate to offer advice. I welcome it. Hell, I was begging for it. Each of us are skilled in different ways, and also have areas that need improvement. People's methods will be different, and one may think them contradictory, but they all work for them. I'll get some black primer, try your method out, and go with thin coats, because that's one thing I know I need to improve on, being admittedly impatient when it comes to painting. I'm sure the results will be better. Thanks for being brave enough to offer your advice. When other members like yourself do, that's when I truly learn. It sure beats all the redo's. The barrels can be stripped of paint easily and redone. For this step, getting the right paint and the right technique are key for someone who has no idea how to paint or use an airbrush. Thanks again
Did this this morning so you could get some idea of what I said. No resin cannon was ruined or destroyed in the venture. Using a tin from my ropewalk and left over Tamiya paints from previous plastic models. Pic 1 tin cleaned with dry cloth.

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Pic 4 Close-up as what would be the over all effect. Bronze in this case would appear much better. Hope this helps and gives you an idea that may be helpful in your project. All the Best.

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Pic 4 Close-up as what would be the over all effect. Bronze in this case would appear much better. Hope this helps and gives you an idea that may be helpful in your project. All the Best.

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The black peeks through the dark copper enough to provide some texture and depth as well as darker areas. Is the copper paint just a very thin, light coat? I imagine you have to stop from adding too much copper, or leaving too little, and achieve a balance.
 
The black peeks through the dark copper enough to provide some texture and depth as well as darker areas. Is the copper paint just a very thin, light coat? I imagine you have to stop from adding too much copper, or leaving too little, and achieve a balance.
Very light translucent layers. Judge after the coating dries. Colour and opacity changes slightly subject to drying method. Your eye will tell you when it's the effect you desire. I've never seen new or aged bronze cannon so I can't elaborate on end result colour.
 
I need to practice with the air brush until I can be consistent with that stroke method. Watching how much control that fellow had while sketching was amazing.

Thanks ConsNZ!
My pleasure. In turn I've learnt so much by lurking around your posts and those of others. All you need is an old brown cardboard box to use as a surface, spray with water, wetting the surface with the spray will be an adequate guide to any progress. No need to waste good paint and related solvent(s) when water will teach and guide your strokes. - Just sooo pleased I can have some input. ;)
 
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My pleasure. In turn I've learnt so much by lurking around your posts and those of others. All you need is an old brown cardboard box to use as a surface, spray with water, wetting the surface with the spray will be an adequate guide to any progress. No need to waste good paint and related solvent(s) when water will teach and guide your strokes. - Just sooo pleased I can have some input. ;)
Wow! that's a great idea! No wasted paint! :D Thumbsup
 
Kurt, painting is not a strength of mine either. My default mode in building is to test well in advance of needing to do so. So even though I will not be building any artillery any time soon I need to be confident in my approach so I can hit the ground running.

I too have Kris's printed barrels for my Le Fleuron, just to test how to best treat them to a finish I find acceptable. With that said, below are some results I've found acceptable.

All of the barrels barrels tested below had their paint applied with brushes.
All Barrels: First primed with Testors based gray primer, diluted 1:2 (primer:mineral spirits).
All Barrels: Painted with Testors Flat Black oil, thinned by eye. (not measured).

Iron Guns: once the Flat Black dried, I tossed the barrel into a Ziploc bag full of graphite powder. Gave it a good shake, removed, shook off excess and then rubbed gently with a lint free soft cloth. I'm not sure yet if I will apply any type of finish to protect it. I need to do some more research.

Bronze Guns: After Flat Black dried, I applied the Rub N Buff, Antique Gold. I made my choice from a number of metallic finishes offered. I didn't want to buy 5 colors only to use one of them. They are not cheap. The Amazon link is below. Hope this helps.


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Kurt, painting is not a strength of mine either. My default mode in building is to test well in advance of needing to do so. So even though I will not be building any artillery any time soon I need to be confident in my approach so I can hit the ground running.

I too have Kris's printed barrels for my Le Fleuron, just to test how to best treat them to a finish I find acceptable. With that said, below are some results I've found acceptable.

All of the barrels barrels tested below had their paint applied with brushes.
All Barrels: First primed with Testors based gray primer, diluted 1:2 (primer:mineral spirits).
All Barrels: Painted with Testors Flat Black oil, thinned by eye. (not measured).

Iron Guns: once the Flat Black dried, I tossed the barrel into a Ziploc bag full of graphite powder. Gave it a good shake, removed, shook off excess and then rubbed gently with a lint free soft cloth. I'm not sure yet if I will apply any type of finish to protect it. I need to do some more research.

Bronze Guns: After Flat Black dried, I applied the Rub N Buff, Antique Gold. I made my choice from a number of metallic finishes offered. I didn't want to buy 5 colors only to use one of them. They are not cheap. The Amazon link is below. Hope this helps.


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I love the final effect this method produces. How long can Buff& Rub be expected to last many years if it is carnuba wax based, as opposed to hard enamel?

Many thanks for the advice. All of us on this forum are benefitting from learning all these great painting techniques. So many to choose from.
 
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Wow Jim. One question, not to highjack Kurt's thread. Is your gun brass based? I may need to test more as there are miles between your finish and what I was able to achieve. Very nice!Thumbsup
 
Wow Jim. One question, not to highjack Kurt's thread. Is your gun brass based? I may need to test more as there are miles between your finish and what I was able to achieve. Very nice!Thumbsup
Sorry, Kurt for highjacking your thread...

Yes, the barrels are CNC-turned brass. I use 'Brass Black' diluted with water 1\10 (one part Brass black, and 10 amounts of water), then I hold the barrels in the bath for 20-30 minutes, brushing the surface (both sides) occasionally. This is a slow blackening process, but it resists light scratches. The surface must be spotless from dirt\greese, A MUST!
 
Kurt, painting is not a strength of mine either. My default mode in building is to test well in advance of needing to do so. So even though I will not be building any artillery any time soon I need to be confident in my approach so I can hit the ground running.

I too have Kris's printed barrels for my Le Fleuron, just to test how to best treat them to a finish I find acceptable. With that said, below are some results I've found acceptable.

All of the barrels barrels tested below had their paint applied with brushes.
All Barrels: First primed with Testors based gray primer, diluted 1:2 (primer:mineral spirits).
All Barrels: Painted with Testors Flat Black oil, thinned by eye. (not measured).

Iron Guns: once the Flat Black dried, I tossed the barrel into a Ziploc bag full of graphite powder. Gave it a good shake, removed, shook off excess and then rubbed gently with a lint free soft cloth. I'm not sure yet if I will apply any type of finish to protect it. I need to do some more research.

Bronze Guns: After Flat Black dried, I applied the Rub N Buff, Antique Gold. I made my choice from a number of metallic finishes offered. I didn't want to buy 5 colors only to use one of them. They are not cheap. The Amazon link is below. Hope this helps.


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They look awesome. I especially like the Antique Gold effect and would certainly try this method but I only have 4xLombard cannons for the AL Santa Maria 1/65 so a bit costly but very much worth noting for future reference. Thank you for this post Mr Hoss.
 
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