Thanks for posting this. These old eyes cannot make out the information on the bottom of the frame. Is this depicting HMS Victory at one of the two battles of Ushant?
Allan
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No.. it was at Spithead - giving a salute I suspect. Spithead is the area of the Solent between Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight and where fleet reviews were/are traditionally held by Royalty etc.
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Hey guys,
Maybe this will help:
Colour design in the 17th century depended on how cheaply they could be obtained. This also meant that they had to be easy to produce. The most expensive colours were primarily ultramarine, purple and a rich, permanent black, which was very difficult to produce. These colours were very expensive due to their natural sources or complex production and were regarded as status symbols. I.e. the nobility or, depending on the case, prestigious, expensive warships. However, it should not be underestimated that the colours were not particularly durable, so they faded very quickly.
At sea in particular, salt water and the sun were hard on the colours or the colour gradient and the ships almost always had to be touched up. In other words, it's quite possible that ochre looked like pig pink afterwards. I don't like it either, but it sounds logical. I love there bee maya look. But I think it's more out of necessity and use that it didn't look quite as colourful as it does now in Portsmouth. I even thought I read that Nelson really did change the colour to distinguish it from the French-ships. But in the end, this is all speculation. The artists' interpretation is also always questionable, as they had to make a living from selling their work. I think we model makers have to differentiate between whether we are building historically and scientifically accurate models or whether we are doing a bit of artistic work. The fact is, we build beautiful ships, don't we?
Explanation:
Ultramarine:
This bright blue was extracted from the gemstone lapis lazuli, which made it very expensive.
Purple:
Purple, a red-violet colour, was extracted from the glands of purple snails. The complex extraction process made this colour very expensive and exclusive.
Black:
A rich black colour for textiles was not easy to achieve in the 17th century. It required a combination of different substances and repeated dyeing to achieve a permanent colour.
Other colours such as red, white and some earth tones (such as ochre or umber) were more accessible and were therefore used more frequently. However, depending on their purity and intensity, these colours could also be expensive, especially if they were needed for the nobility or to produce high-quality works of art.
Best regards
Günther
Maybe this will help:
Colour design in the 17th century depended on how cheaply they could be obtained. This also meant that they had to be easy to produce. The most expensive colours were primarily ultramarine, purple and a rich, permanent black, which was very difficult to produce. These colours were very expensive due to their natural sources or complex production and were regarded as status symbols. I.e. the nobility or, depending on the case, prestigious, expensive warships. However, it should not be underestimated that the colours were not particularly durable, so they faded very quickly.
At sea in particular, salt water and the sun were hard on the colours or the colour gradient and the ships almost always had to be touched up. In other words, it's quite possible that ochre looked like pig pink afterwards. I don't like it either, but it sounds logical. I love there bee maya look. But I think it's more out of necessity and use that it didn't look quite as colourful as it does now in Portsmouth. I even thought I read that Nelson really did change the colour to distinguish it from the French-ships. But in the end, this is all speculation. The artists' interpretation is also always questionable, as they had to make a living from selling their work. I think we model makers have to differentiate between whether we are building historically and scientifically accurate models or whether we are doing a bit of artistic work. The fact is, we build beautiful ships, don't we?
Explanation:
Ultramarine:
This bright blue was extracted from the gemstone lapis lazuli, which made it very expensive.
Purple:
Purple, a red-violet colour, was extracted from the glands of purple snails. The complex extraction process made this colour very expensive and exclusive.
Black:
A rich black colour for textiles was not easy to achieve in the 17th century. It required a combination of different substances and repeated dyeing to achieve a permanent colour.
Other colours such as red, white and some earth tones (such as ochre or umber) were more accessible and were therefore used more frequently. However, depending on their purity and intensity, these colours could also be expensive, especially if they were needed for the nobility or to produce high-quality works of art.
Best regards
Günther