HMS Victory cross section (De'Agostini)

[Galley Slave]

Thanks Jim.
Just a little frustrating, but I will get there.
Already eyeing the Calderdraft Badger.

 

[ziled68]

Thanks Ray. Appreciate the comments.
Really enjoying the build. Just wish I could move a little quicker.

Slow and steady, wins the race. Ask the tortoise, he knows.

Ray

 

[Galley Slave]

Lol. Cheers mate.

 

[ziled68]

Thanks Jim.
Just a little frustrating, but I will get there.
Already eyeing the Calderdraft Badger.

Hey Brother, I was just looking over the Badger and she looks like she will be a fun build. You'll knock it out of the ballpark.

Ray

 

[Galley Slave]

Thanks Ray.
Just been reading through the manual and it doesn't seem too difficult as a first proper build.
We shall see, but it is the only one I have been drawn to so far.
However the rigging looks a little daunting.
Little steps.

 

[BigMike]

Great looking work!

 

[Galley Slave]

Thanks Mike.
Still not up to the standard of much I have seen on this site.
But working on it.

 

[Donnie]

Still not up to the standard of much I have seen on this site.

I understand completely Galley as I feel the same way. The main thing is just to enjoy your own workmanship - it is a lifetime adventure of constantly upgrading our own skills. I am by nature not a competitive person. I just get enjoyment out of doing the best I can with what skill set I have. I don't think anyone is 100% happy as you can always find flaws and problems that no one else will even take notice. f.e. I happen to rig a lanyard / dead eye backwards just not paying attention. I will let it pass. If I let my OCD and perfection get in the way, I will never be able to finish a project, so I have had to re train my mind to be able to "accept" a certain level of accomplishments. I have to work at finding a happy balance in what I am satisfied with and performance of my work.

 

[ziled68]

Hey Brother,
I was just thinking about your upcoming desire to work on the Brig Badger. As I was looking at her, I could not help but see similar lines to the Sloop Mediator (albeit the Badger has two masts compared to the Mediators single mast).
That being said, you can look over the Mediators plans and down load them for free at Model Ship Builder. Just go to SOS's main page and scroll down until you see "Navy Board Models" on the right hand side. Hit the link and once at NBM, scroll down until you see the link for MSB also on the right hand side. Once you are at MSB you will see a list of options on the left hand side and you will look for the "Projects" link where it will take you to another page with the projects available to the modeler. You will hit the "Mediator Sloop (1745)" tab and view her lines and plans, and if interested, you can also download it to be printed at the scale of your choosing.
Mind you, this will take you down the path of, "The Darkside" of model ship building a.k.a. "Scratch Building". You have already shown potential of being pretty savvy of thinking outside the box so why not, "Dip your toe in the water" and see how you"ll fair?
Did I already mention it was only one mast campared to two? It also addresses your desire to have a little rigging practice without it being too daunting. Food for thought Brother.

Ray

 

[Galley Slave]

Hi Ray,
A step too far me thinks, but a tempting idea.
Besides, I live in a one bedroom flat (apartment) and my shipyard is in a corner of the lounge (sitting room).
I don't have any electic tools and have to be careful how much mess I make.
Will probably [definately] have to go outside to sand the hull of whatever build I decide to do next.
Already been consigned to the 'naughty' step for sanding the cross section in situ.
I am looking at getting a dremel, but will not be able to use it extensively indoors.
Oh the joys of living three floors up, and no lift (elevator).
Apologies for the (bracketed) words. Just a nod to our friends across the pond.
But thank you for your time in thinking of my next project.
Stay well.

 

[Galley Slave]

I understand completely Galley as I feel the same way. The main thing is just to enjoy your own workmanship - it is a lifetime adventure of constantly upgrading our own skills. I am by nature not a competitive person. I just get enjoyment out of doing the best I can with what skill set I have. I don't think anyone is 100% happy as you can always find flaws and problems that no one else will even take notice. f.e. I happen to rig a lanyard / dead eye backwards just not paying attention. I will let it pass. If I let my OCD and perfection get in the way, I will never be able to finish a project, so I have had to re train my mind to be able to "accept" a certain level of accomplishments. I have to work at finding a happy balance in what I am satisfied with and performance of my work.

Hi Donnie,
Thanks for the input.
I can relate perfectly with reaching for perfection but having to settle for what you consider acceptable.
I have just spent hours trying to get the gratings 'just right', but have had to settle for 'acceptable'.
I have certainly seen better on this site, but I have to live with the materials supplied. Not the best.
Do not have the skills or tools, as yet, to make my own gratings.
Oh well!! Onwards and upwards.
But really enjoying the learning experience. Something totally new to me.
Stay well.

 

[Jimsky]

Here are my few cents... @Galley Slave To those about to Rock- We salute you (AC\DC)!!! I think whoever reads this build log somehow passionate about the modeling, in shipbuilding specifically. For the majority of us, this is just a hobby. Often times, our shop is the table in the corner of the room, and we are limited with power tools we can own and most importantly (even if we have those) - limited to use them. Our skill level is far different from each other, and so the results (the models we build)! But all of them is our proudly made arts, and we should be proud of what we do! Patience and time - are the secrets to success. You gain the experience as you build more and more models. The most common mistake I've seen, is the modeler choose a wrong kit as the beginner. Then the frustration is obvious and unavoidable, and often time leads to the fiasco in modeling. This forum is a great resource in helping to choose a proper kit for the level and experience you have. Ton's of valuable information starting with the history, kits in review and tools (just a few to mention).
All the available kits manufactures made them differently: while some of them give you a very good wood\wood parts selection, others put a great casting decor. It is rare (at least in my experience) that it can contain both. Let's face it: The goal to make any kit profitable, they care less about authentic\history and often times scale. Costs must justify the profit. But they are a good source for the beginners, and if you choose a right kit - you can get a result you are capable of.
I personally build many kists and still do...I can not be certain to judge one kit over another. All of them have their own cons and proc. The far best experience I have with few Russian manufactures: Falconet and Master Korabel. *NOTE: I am not trying to commercialize nor have any commissions and affiliations to those companies. It is solely my personal experience based on building multiple kits.
They have kits for various levels and experience. They usually have two option in wood: Anegry or Pear. The quality of the parts is really great and the planking is scored (spilled) which simplified assembly for the novice modeler, The only problem is they are all sold in Russia and shipping cost could be a quarter cost of the kit itself. But all the kits I bought, I was happy!

Happy Modelling All

 

[Galley Slave]

Here are my few cents... @Galley Slave To those about to Rock- We salute you (AC\DC)!!! I think whoever reads this build log somehow passionate about the modeling, in shipbuilding specifically. For the majority of us, this is just a hobby. Often times, our shop is the table in the corner of the room, and we are limited with power tools we can own and most importantly (even if we have those) - limited to use them. Our skill level is far different from each other, and so the results (the models we build)! But all of them is our proudly made arts, and we should be proud of what we do! Patience and time - are the secrets to success. You gain the experience as you build more and more models. The most common mistake I've seen, is the modeler choose a wrong kit as the beginner. Then the frustration is obvious and unavoidable, and often time leads to the fiasco in modeling. This forum is a great resource in helping to choose a proper kit for the level and experience you have. Ton's of valuable information starting with the history, kits in review and tools (just a few to mention).
All the available kits manufactures made them differently: while some of them give you a very good wood\wood parts selection, others put a great casting decor. It is rare (at least in my experience) that it can contain both. Let's face it: The goal to make any kit profitable, they care less about authentic\history and often times scale. Costs must justify the profit. But they are a good source for the beginners, and if you choose a right kit - you can get a result you are capable of.
I personally build many kists and still do...I can not be certain to judge one kit over another. All of them have their own cons and proc. The far best experience I have with few Russian manufactures: Falconet and Master Korabel. *NOTE: I am not trying to commercialize nor have any commissions and affiliations to those companies. It is solely my personal experience based on building multiple kits.
They have kits for various levels and experience. They usually have two option in wood: Anegry or Pear. The quality of the parts is really great and the planking is scored (spilled) which simplified assembly for the novice modeler, The only problem is they are all sold in Russia and shipping cost could be a quarter cost of the kit itself. But all the kits I bought, I was happy!

Happy Modelling All

Thanks for the input Jim.
You make a valid point with the model one decides to build.
I like the Caldercraft Badger for my next build, but still looking around at what is available, as this is not decided.
Will have a look at the Falconet and Master Korabel kits as well. Just need to make sure I can follow the instructions as I am still a 'newbie'.
Stay well.

 

[Jimsky]

Just need to make sure I can follow the instructions as I am still a 'newbie'.

All of the instructions are pictures "step by step' sometimes can be a bit cumbersome but...I am here to help (if you need one) Just in case...we have a few kit's reviews on those manufacturers.

 

[Galley Slave]

Thanks Jim.
Will have to look into that.

 

[Galley Slave]

Here's a pic of the grates.
They are 'OK'. Really do not like the uneven gaps in the grating.

 

[Galley Slave]

Haven't posted for a while, but plodding along.
Orlop deck grates in place and half planked. Side planking completed.
Need to complete Orlop deck planking and then make a number of holes in the deck for the pumps and mast.
Lower gun ports cut out. (My new pet hate)







Slowly, slowly moving forward.
At this rate, a full build will take me the rest of my life. lol

 

[Uwek]

The timber of the deck and other planking looks very good - with fine grain!
is it the original wood out of the box or did you replace it?

 

[Galley Slave]

The timber of the deck and other planking looks very good - with fine grain!
is it the original wood out of the box or did you replace it?

Hi Uwe,
It's what came with the kit.
No idea what it is, but it is very hard.
I suspect it is bamboo, but I could be wrong.
Keep well.

 

[Galley Slave]

Browsing through some ZHL Mysticque pics I came across this one.
This part of the build I really find below the standard of the rest of the parts.
Can anyone think of something that can replace the braid that is being used?
(Still on the lookout for my next build)