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HMS Victory Mantua 1:78 (first build) by Grant Tyler

Robp1025 said:
I'm big into computers so I'll keep them as my career and also ship building as my hobby while not behind a screen.
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Good morning Rob. Ahh so you are one of those clever guys who speak a language I don’t understand. :D. Re your previous comment I lucky I am building the Victory as there are many references and amazing builds for me to look at.Certainly helps a layman like myself in this complex hobby. Cheers Grant
 
Good morning.

Here is my process to my building the masts, yards, booms, spars etc. Perhaps my log has been a tad cavalier and confusing so I thought it is time to attempt a more logical presentation.

The driver boom for the Mizzen-

There are so many references for the Victory and from the time when building started in 1759 to present so many “upgrades”and changes have been made. This at times makes references difficult as to which period does one choose. No doubt the best modeling practice would be to buy a reference (e.g. The Anatomy of the Victory) and stick to this plan.

When I started this model I followed the Mantua plans and quickly realized it was not any where near the detail of the ship at any era in its lifetime. My ship is a hasmash of many eras and I really have had fun making multiple changes- apologies to the purists out there who make outstanding models. This hobby is a time out for me from a hectic and stressful business environment so I keep it fun. That is me- it is an escape.

All my masts, yards etc are simulated from McGowens diagrams and this is an early period design. I simulate what I can with limited resources.

My process I have used:

I draw a rough diagram to get the scale correct- this is most important. For the boom the most unusual aspect for me was that it was tapered at each end with the thickest 6mm in the center going to 3mm at the end and 4mm at the mast end. I used the kit supplied mast “connector “(don’t know nautical term). Used 1.5mm (Cut to size) Tamiya tape for the bands and simulated the brass supports from 0.5mm deck planks cut to size.

The later Victory has a sheave near the end of the mast, however the earlier diagram uses cleats. To be Sanded and painted.

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Just been catching up with your log. Things are going quite nicely and it sounds like you are having great fun which is the whole point of course. I do want to add a comment on your post #730 where you show elongated eyebolts as hangers for the foot ropes. This is a good way to do the stirrups on a model, possibly the best, but as you probably know it was not how it was done on real ships where they were made of line. If they were ridgedly fixed they couldn't be used.

Love your log. Like Heinrich's it is so full of people and variety. A great read in addition to being instructive. Thumbsup
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Fair winds.. Ed

P. S. I think the connector is called the jaws.
 
Robp1025 said:
I'm big into computers so I'll keep them as my career and also ship building as my hobby while not behind a screen.
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I understand your passions. I started computer stuff back in 1966 with classes in Fortran....later with systems that operated under CP/M then on to DOS, BASIC, UNIX and then C and C#....I am a retired engineer (electrical - field service). Computers and IT kept food on the table. Now, I enjoy woodworking and model making of late. And the men and women on here teach me new things daily. So much to learn, so much to accomplish!
 
Philski said:
I understand your passions. I started computer stuff back in 1966 with classes in Fortran....later with systems that operated under CP/M then on to DOS, BASIC, UNIX and then C and C#....I am a retired engineer (electrical - field service). Computers and IT kept food on the table. Now, I enjoy woodworking and model making of late. And the men and women on here teach me new things daily. So much to learn, so much to accomplish!
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I love all the people on this forum and how kind and helpful they are. Between here and the other forum I am on I have learn so much and want to learn for many years to come.
 
Sailor_ed said:
Just been catching up with your log. Things are going quite nicely and it sounds like you are having great fun which is the whole point of course. I do want to add a comment on your post #730 where you show elongated eyebolts as hangers for the foot ropes. This is a good way to do the stirrups on a model, possibly the best, but as you probably know it was not how it was done on real ships where they were made of line. If they were ridgedly fixed they couldn't be used.

Love your log. Like Heinrich's it is so full of people and variety. A great read in addition to being instructive. Thumbsup
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Fair winds.. Ed

P. S. I think the connector is called the jaws.
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Hello Ed. Thanks for this . I did not know this, however it does make sense that they could not be fixed. I don’t think I could create effective line stirrups for the foot rope tho. Jaws - love the learning on this log.....reminds me of Movie a long time ago.;). To place my Log with Heinrich (a bit of a legend in my opinion) is huge praise.... not that I am anywhere near his educational and model building expertise. Thank you. Cheers Grant
 
GrantTyler said:
Hello Ed. Thanks for this . I did not know this, however it does make sense that they could not be fixed. I don’t think I could create effective line stirrups for the foot rope tho. Jaws - love the learning on this log.....reminds me of Movie a long time ago.;). To place my Log with Heinrich (a bit of a legend in my opinion) is huge praise.... not that I am anywhere near his educational and model building expertise. Thank you. Cheers Grant
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Good evening- I know Heinrich is going to give me detention for this. When I started here on SOS I was clueless (still am) and Heinrich’s interest in my build and how he engaged with me (I know he does this with so many others) is a major influence in my passion for this hobby. His logs are an education all in themselves. A special person for sure.
 
GrantTyler said:
Good evening- I know Heinrich is going to give me detention for this. When I started here on SOS I was clueless (still am) and Heinrich’s interest in my build and how he engaged with me (I know he does this with so many others) is a major influence in my passion for this hobby. His logs are an education all in themselves. A special person for sure.
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Here here my situation too, totally agree and it's no coincidence Heinrich has a huge following.
 
RDN1954 said:
Hey Grant, when looking at your (first?) build, I can't help but wonder where and how you obtained the skills necessary to put together this beautiful Victory. Once finished, this model deserves nothing less than a place of honor.
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Thank you. Really appreciate this compliment for my first and a half build;). I keep going and as long as I wake up and enjoy going into shipyard each morning then I know everything is sooo worthwhile. In my view those who have not built a ship have missed out on something special. Cheers Grant
 
GrantTyler said:
Good morning- super excited as I got a package from Dry Dock Models. Fantastic quality.

I must shout out a big thank you to @zoly99sask for making this work for me to get the product to the town of Melkbosstrand. Went out of his way and it is much appreciated.

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That's awesome Grant, I have heard that Dry Dock has great quality. Daniel20 who frequently comments on this forum recommended their pear-wood blocks. Now your model will look even more awesome than you can imagine ;)
 
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