Le Coureur 1:48 CAF model by Christian

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Hi everybody!

Received my kit on monday, shipping was very very quickly!
Book by Ancre arrived yesterday.

Went through the parts and recognised, that the parts of the jig are warped.
Does this matter or is that fixed by building it and fixing the bottom parts on a solid plate?

I also browsed the book and saw, that the stern windows are named "false windows". Does that mean they were only painted black or
were they real glassed windows although the room behind is not really usable for the crew?

Will start building tomorrow!

Happy new year!
 
Hello Gebirgsmarine and welcome and happy nee year to you too
for what concerns the warped pieces without an image it is difficult to say
but when it comes to the fund, I'm sure nothing changes
once the plywood has been screwed to a solid base (I preferred to use double-sided tape so as not to make holes in the board that I can recover for other uses)
I don't think it's a problem for the other pieces either
the joints are so precise that I think that the whole kit will result solid and anyway and in a precise way ..
 
I would cross check the dimensions on both sides of the jig to make sure they match. The rear port side of the jig had the slots in different places than the right, which has caused some issues with the frames. I am trying to rectify that now but with some of the planking already installed, it's not going to be possible to get it perfect.
 
Hallo Christian,
I am very happy, that you started the building log - and we all hope to see soon some first photos.
Especially with ths problem with the plywood, I agree here with sisco, it will be not a big problem, but to be sure show us the problem.
If it is really one @CAFmodel has a very good and fast aftersale service helping to solve problems .....
 
Gebirgsmarine said:
I also browsed the book and saw, that the stern windows are named "false windows". Does that mean they were only painted black or
were they real glassed windows although the room behind is not really usable for the crew?
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The room is definitely not usable and was I guess a pure storage room and for the rudder, so I guess they did not use here real glass windows - but it is a good question I will try to make some research for this in addition - maybe Jean Boudriot was writing something

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After more than 20 years a new keel was laid down far off the sea.
In the background the keel......
As I mentioned before, the parts for the cradle D1, D2 and A0-3 are heavy warped as you can see on the photo (sorry, I am a bad photographer and have a very old camera. Maybe my phone works better)
I don´t think I can fix them. Have to mail CAF for new ones :(

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Uwek said:
The room is definitely not usable and was I guess a pure storage room and for the rudder, so I guess they did not use here real glass windows - but it is a good question I will try to make some research for this in addition - maybe Jean Boudriot was writing something

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In Boudriots book he is really writing several times "false windows", so I guess that there were only wooden frames installed at the stern of the Le Coureur.
Luggers had typically no decorations at the stern, the Le Coureur was an exception.

Therefore the stern was looking like the stern of the model shown on the ancre page:
monographie-du-coureur-lougre-1776 (3).jpg
ancre.fr

MONOGRAPHIE DU COUREUR LOUGRE - 1776 - Ancre

LUGGER LE COUREUR BY DENYS 1776 A MONOGRAPH with 7 plates at 1:48 scale NEW: AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH
ancre.fr ancre.fr

To get an impression how small these "windows" were in comparison with a person - here an excerpt of a Jean Boudriot drawing of the monograph Le Coureur
coureur12.jpg

or the scratch model by Patrick Joly:

Archéologie et modélisme d'Arsenal (Angleur - Wallonie - Belgique - Europe ) - Le Coureur

AMArsenal - Une association belge qui s'occupe de faire revivre le modélisme naval pratiqué jadis dans les arsenaux. Notre démarche se base sur l'étude des documents anciens et les travaux de l'archéologue et pionnier Jean Boudriot.
www.amarsenal.be www.amarsenal.be

or the scratch model by Alexander Gurau

Le Coureur – Gallery – Alex Ship Models

www.alexshipmodels.com www.alexshipmodels.com

Gebirgsmarine said:
After more than 20 years a new keel was laid down far off the sea.
In the background the keel......
As I mentioned before, the parts for the cradle D1, D2 and A0-3 are heavy warped as you can see on the photo (sorry, I am a bad photographer and have a very old camera. Maybe my phone works better)
I don´t think I can fix them. Have to mail CAF for new ones :(
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I would try to install the jig with the warped plywood and you will see, if it would work - in addition I guess Tom from @CAFmodel will be open for replacement.
For me it is looking like, that the plywood was exposed to some humidity maybe during the postage. So maybe you write him a PM
 
While waiting for the replacement parts for the jig, I started with dry fitting the frames.
First I picked the ones where no beveling is needed and started with number 16.
Now I have a question: there is a difference between fit on the lasered marks or the joggs (or teeth).
If I take the marks as reference teeth are slightly offset and vice versa.
What is the true reference: marks or teeth?

Christian
 
Gebirgsmarine said:
While waiting for the replacement parts for the jig, I started with dry fitting the frames.
First I picked the ones where no beveling is needed and started with number 16.
Now I have a question: there is a difference between fit on the lasered marks or the joggs (or teeth).
If I take the marks as reference teeth are slightly offset and vice versa.
What is the true reference: marks or teeth?

Christian
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Hallo Christian,
can you show the problem somehow on photo(s) ? Would be helpful to understand
 
Uwek said:
Hallo Christian,
can you show the problem somehow on photo(s) ? Would be helpful to understand
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Here is the photo of "my" frame 16
IMG-4619.jpg

LE COUREUR - french Lugger 1776 - POF kit from CAF in 1:48 by Uwe

I finished the preparation of the frames for axis 2 up to axis 37. Final adjustment and cleaning I plan to do during the installation of the frames on top of the keel....... One additional step is done and I think they are looking good - let us see in the future, if I prepared the frames in...
shipsofscale.com
 
Now I understand.
This difference is only on some of the frame wooden parts.
I followed usually the teeth / joggs and not the small laser mark.
If you lay the frame parts on top of the frame drawing you can see that also !! - I think that the frame drawing is the most important one for this job
And I realized with the ongoing planking job, that this was not wrong, when I made the frames -> Anyhow you will need a good chisel for the planking later on, so you can adjust slightly these teeth
 
Gebirgsmarine said:
Thank you Uwe!
Built the first 5 frames now and it works properly.
remove the coal with a plastic brush on my power tool.
goes quickly, doesn't get hot nor hurt my fingers.
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Can you show us the plastic brush on a photo?
It is a good tip also for other situations and kits where laser cut is used.....
 
Hi everybody!

Just to make sure, that I am making no mistakes.
How do I put the parts of the frames together?
Laser mark on laser mark? (pic 1)
or all laser marks up (pic 2)IMGP0015.JPGIMGP0016.JPGIMGP0016.JPG
 
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