Le Soleil Royal ZHL Build Log [COMPLETED BUILD]

Very true! I have to use a very small bit to use as a guide and follow it with a larger bit. The .5 mm bit is easier to handle than the larger one. It’s not always perfect, but pretty close. And the dowel is cheap and the jig makes cutting a new wheel pretty quick work. I do like the look of bigger front trucks better than the ones supplied. I’m going to paint them black. Unfortunately, you won’t see much of them anyway since they’re covered by a walkway above. That wouldn’t phase you, though, would it, Kurt?
 
Now for the question of the day for all you erudite scholars out there: since the supplied upper deck guns are ostensibly lighter than the bigger guns below, how would one rig them? They have carriages I’ve never seen on other models. I suppose the end extensions are used to move them around for aiming. The directions show the extension curved upward. I don’t even know if these guns are supposed to have rigging. Can anyone enlighten me on this subject?image.jpgimage.jpg
 
Now for the question of the day for all you erudite scholars out there: since the supplied upper deck guns are ostensibly lighter than the bigger guns below, how would one rig them? They have carriages I’ve never seen on other models. I suppose the end extensions are used to move them around for aiming. The directions show the extension curved upward. I don’t even know if these guns are supposed to have rigging. Can anyone enlighten me on this subject?View attachment 289320View attachment 289321
Hello Vfordyce, I have not seen any large caliber guns which have the pattern similar to this relatively small caliber Danish wrought iron gun below that dates from 1420-1600. I think this tailed hoop-barreled gun is far too primitive and obsolete for ships of the 17th century and later. None of my sources show a gun of this type in use past 1600. I would replace those guns on your model with lighter, modern style 18th century guns of your choosing if I were you. A bunch of these tailed guns and carriages came with my DeAgostini kit for HMS Sovereign of the Seas, and they will be discarded entirely and replaced with correct guns. Le Soleil Royal is a much later ship than the Sovereign.

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Hello Vfordyce, I have not seen any large caliber guns which have the pattern similar to this relatively small caliber Danish wrought iron gun below that dates from 1420-1600. I think this tailed hoop-barreled gun is far too primitive and obsolete for ships of the 17th century and later. None of my sources show a gun of this type in use past 1600. I would replace those guns on your model with lighter, modern style 18th century guns of your choosing if I were you. A bunch of these tailed guns and carriages came with my DeAgostini kit for HMS Sovereign of the Seas, and they will be discarded entirely and replaced with correct guns. Le Soleil Royal is a much later ship than the Sovereign.

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These are not hoop barreled guns in the kit. Are there any other guns with tails?
 
No to my knowledge. If there are, I wish other members would say something. They don't look practical, unless they are very light and easy to maneuver on deck.
That was my thought. That's why I wondered if they required standard rigging. However, the guns provided are the same length and width as the "big" guns on the semi-covered deck with normal carriages. I've searched online several times and can't find anything like them. Your picture of the Danish gun is the closest. Where did you get the picture? Und kannst du deutsch sprechen?
 
That was my thought. That's why I wondered if they required standard rigging. However, the guns provided are the same length and width as the "big" guns on the semi-covered deck with normal carriages. I've searched online several times and can't find anything like them. Your picture of the Danish gun is the closest. Where did you get the picture? Und kannst du deutsch sprechen?
I got it from this book:
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Und ja, Ich spreche ein bischen deutsch. Es ist sehr hilfreich.
 
Hello, Vic. These are called culverin. They are very light guns. Usually, they don't require a heavy carriage and can be placed with ease where required. The image below shows the Demi-culverin (bigger size and caliber)

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The carriage as in the kit might be very well simplified and adapted for mass production.
 
Your little jig looks good for the project, I have seen drill guides with a V shape before to hold for end drilling and also used stood on side and used to hold dowels steady for drilling in the side.

I haven't had to make wheels yet, but I did purchase the Model Expo small drill press, would work well for a project like this.
 
Hello, Vic. These are called culverin. They are very light guns. Usually, they don't require a heavy carriage and can be placed with ease where required. The image below shows the Demi-culverin (bigger size and caliber)

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The carriage as in the kit might be very well simplified and adapted for mass production.
Jim, I was thinking it just might be a culverin of some sort. I haven’t seen one with the curved extension, though. When I look at Andrey’s (@Mr.Deep), I believe he cut off the extensions and rounded them off to form a knob (button) for his SR. Then he constructed new carriages. Andrey also gave a run-down of how many guns of what kind were on the original SR. The kit doesn’t have places for all the smaller guns on the upper decks (6 and 8 pounders). I’m thinking about ordering some of those guns if I can find them and carriages to go with them. I’m not prepared to make my own carriages from scratch yet. In the mean time, I’ll use kit provided guns without rigging and replace them when I get new ones.
 
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