Lowell Grand Banks Dory - Model Shipways

Thole pins: As wooden pieces get smaller, you reach the point where you begin to “fight the grain.” In other words the grain begins to weaken what you are carving. The classic modeling woods; boxwood, pear, apple, holly, have very close, tight grains as well as strength to allow carving and turning into very small items. No so, basswood. It is too weak. So, either switch to a harder, stronger, close grained wood, or use a different material For example, painted brass wire.

If you use wood avoid cross grained stock. Choose a piece with straight grain and split rather than saw it.

There is nothing wrong with using different materials to model parts at the required scale.

Roger
 
Dory used today ........
The boats of Mauritania used for fishing off the beach are remarkable, as are the people who use them. But they are not dories. I'm sure that there is a local name for the boats. The definition dory as a type of small boat is one with a flat bottom planked fore and aft and flaring sides. Fair winds!
 
The boats of Mauritania used for fishing off the beach are remarkable, as are the people who use them. But they are not dories. I'm sure that there is a local name for the boats. The definition dory as a type of small boat is one with a flat bottom planked fore and aft and flaring sides. Fair winds!
The photo caption calls them Pirogues
 
The photo caption calls them Pirogues
"Pirogue" is a French word for almost any small boat, more or less equivalent to the English "canoe." In the US, the term usually refers to small boats used by the Cajun people in the bayous of Louisiana. These were originally dugouts (1st picture). More recently they are flat-bottomed double enders (2nd picture). Fair winds!

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The Mishoons, used by Early Native Americans, were certain type trees burned out inside the long log. As the wood burned inside the log, Natives will scrape the embers with carved stone pieces shaping the bowl shape of log into a mishoon, Most mishoons have square bow and stern design, but a very few had bow shape like modern tall sailing ships.

Loods like the next step in boat design is the canoe. bow and stern meet together in a point. The Glouster Dory has similar and glance over to the Vicking Long boats show similar hull design. Interesting how different part of the world have similar design independently from another. Make human interesting.
Nice thread enjoyed the input===Thank You


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I live in northeastern New Jersey, which was earlier the home of the Lenape. While native Americans who lived further north are famous for their birchbark canoes, appropriate birch trees did not grow in this area. Therefore, the Lenape, like the Wampanoag, built dugouts, usually of large tulipifera trees. The Lenape word for boat is mùxul. The pic is my crude model of a Lenape mùxul. Fair winds!

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The thwarts and beckets are attached. I'm on the home stretch now. I just need to sand and seal the base and finish the oars (PITA. I managed to snap one so far.) I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to do the thole pins or not. I think it's valid to leave them off but we'll see.

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I'm calling it done.
Well done, congratulations. Soooooo, what's next on the agenda for a ship model? You might get some ideas at the NE Conference if you can wait that long :)
Allan
Northeast Ship Model Conference. April 26, 2025 (9a - 3pm) Port 'n' Starboard Convention Center New London, Ct.
 
Hhmm. Shouldn't the tholes be about 1/16 inch? That would be 1-1/2 inches at 1/24 scale. How about using a 1/16 inch dowel?

Or you can leave them out because they would be put in place only when the boat was being rowed. Other times they would hang from lanyards to keep them out of the way. The picture below shows tholes in place with the lanyard below. In practice the tholes are pulled up and hang down inside the dory. Note that the bottom portions of the tholes are tapered. Fair winds!

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Here's a picture of a Dory at Mystic Seaport showing the thole pins. I made mine from toothpicks.

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Well done, congratulations. Soooooo, what's next on the agenda for a ship model? You might get some ideas at the NE Conference if you can wait that long :)
Allan
Northeast Ship Model Conference. April 26, 2025 (9a - 3pm) Port 'n' Starboard Convention Center New London, Ct.

I have a couple of things in my stash, Including a Corel Victory main section I was given as a gift 20-odd years ago. I started it, got overwhelmed and it's been sitting in the box ever since. For now, though, I think I'm going to continue the shipwright series with the Norwegian Sailing Pram.

I'll have to check into that conference.
 
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