Making your own Ropes

[kuba91nt]

I don’t understand where you got that info from.

I needed larger ropes first because I’m building large scale ship models. My current build has been on hold for 2 months because I needed good quality rope suitable.

I could have purchased from Rope of Scale. As I had been. Buts it’s costing $200 per model by the time I buy the ropes and pay freight.

I can’t afford to keep paying that per model build.

So I looked into options and have to be honest that first option you mentioned did not work for me. I can give many reasons why. I will not get into them here. Probably never will, because the PL4-4 does have a place if you want to only make smaller ropes and use the appropriate threads.

This rope walk is awesome. Does everything I need and with some practice is very easy to make great looking rope.

It’s a huge learning curve. Making rope. And I’m finally there. With the help of this awesome rope walk.

I’ll be selling the PL4-4

That's why i'm asking because you're still making thin ropes, others have successfully used and making them on the Domanoff Planetary Ropewalk. A 2-3mm rope isn't thick, it's the normal size for working with the planetary Ropewalk. 2mm is not a thick rope...

 

[Phillipsart]

First rope made with a distance of 6.2 meters between Bok and Wein.

Weight 750 grams at 10% in first wind.

Gutermann E151 3x15 1.3mm rope

Finished rope measured at 4.83 meters. Which has surprised me. I thought I would have gotten at least 5 meters.

Maybe too much weight. I will try a bit less weight tomorrow.

The rope looks great. Just need an additional 20cm

 

[Dubz Modelling World]

Don't lessen the weight. It looks good. I would even use a bit more weight though But that is a matter of taste I go from 1.75 cm to 1.45 cm approx ;-)

 

[kuba91nt]

That's the problem.
It's unclear what's going on.

You're still showing tiny ropes that don't have any problems on Domanoff's Planetary Ropewalk, and plenty of people do it, so where's the success?

This rope is 1.3mm, which is less than most 1/48 scale models use for basic rigging.

 

[Steef66]

First rope made with a distance of 6.2 meters between Bok and Wein.

Weight 750 grams at 10% in first wind.

Gutermann E151 3x15 1.3mm rope

Finished rope measured at 4.83 meters. Which has surprised me. I thought I would have gotten at least 5 meters.

Maybe too much weight. I will try a bit less weight tomorrow.

The rope looks great. Just need an additional 20cm

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6,2 meters between the hooks will give you rope between 80% and 70% length or less. How thicker how shorter.

 

[Dubz Modelling World]

Kuba, what’s your problem? He couldn’t get results he liked with the Domanoff machine, which I personally don’t think is suitable for making good rope either, anyway it’s just a matter of taste – and yet you keep insisting. Surely you could just accept that. I don’t understand.

Just be happy for him that he’s happy now and is getting the results he wanted.

 

[Phillipsart]

That's why i'm asking because you're still making thin ropes, others have successfully used and making them on the Domanoff Planetary Ropewalk. A 2-3mm rope isn't thick, it's the normal size for working with the planetary Ropewalk. 2mm is not a thick rope...

So. Are you claiming that the PL4-4 can easily make 2 to 3mm ropes?

I call small ropes as 1mm and less. You’re calling small roles upto 3mm. In scale form 1.3 and above in my books is larger rope.

That’s how I interpreted rope sizes. And how I will continue

 

[Dubz Modelling World]

I strongly suggest stopping this discussion, just let us all be happy making rope

 

[Phillipsart]

Kuba, what’s your problem? He couldn’t get results he liked with the Domanoff machine, which I personally don’t think is suitable for making good rope either, anyway it’s just a matter of taste – and yet you keep insisting. Surely you could just accept that. I don’t understand.

Just be happy for him that he’s happy now and is getting the results he wanted.

Thank you. Very much appreciated.

 

[Phillipsart]

I strongly suggest stopping this discussion, just let us all be happy making rope

Totally agree. But this guy was starting to go a bit too far.

 

[kuba91nt]

Kuba, what’s your problem? He couldn’t get results he liked with the Domanoff machine, which I personally don’t think is suitable for making good rope either, anyway it’s just a matter of taste – and yet you keep insisting. Surely you could just accept that. I don’t understand.

Just be happy for him that he’s happy now and is getting the results he wanted.

I don't want to argue. I refrained from adding the opinion i had prepared.
But, he want truth...

Totally agree. But this guy was starting to go a bit too far.

Maybe you're the ones who are insisting and trying to hype him up, saying it's good, when the truth is a bit different?
You even use Domanoff's table for rope diameters and thread thickness to make these ropes? He's the author, right?
Is this deliberately misleading people into thinking it can't be done on another ropewalk?Reading this thread, I'm simply deceived because it hasn't shown anything else that can be done on the Domanoff ropewalk.
Just as you think it's weak, i too can have my own opinion and not accept another solution.Saying something "can't be done" on a Domanoff treadmill and then doing essentially the same thing on another machine is simply hypocrisy. You can have your preferences and not like the machine – but presenting it as the absolute truth is a completely different matter
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So far, it hasn't performed any better than a typical rope from a planetary ropewalk.
I understand that you have to keep an eye on your customer, but let's not exaggerate.
Perhaps it would be appropriate to say that this rope is bad, too melted on individual strands?
It has been tightened several times, as evidenced by the strand failures?

Let's give people honest information and freedom of choice, instead of imposing a single narrative.