Mantua 1/200 Hms Victory Build

ziled68

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Bazzg,
I am unsure as to the directions but I believe that when you mix the glue with 30% water, it is used to fill in any gaps between planks and acts like a bonding agent for the putty to adhere to. Depending on the size of the gaps will help you determine which item to use. If you have gaps in your planking greater then 2mm I would use the watered down glue to help fill the gaps because this mixture will be thicker then regular sanding sealer. Once the glue has dried thoroughly, then you would apply minimum putty because you have basically filled in the majority of the gaps with the glue mixture. I hope this helps.

Ray
 

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if you look at my first post of pics in phots diagrams no 25 it explains about it but is necessary or can i miss it out and just use sand and seal

I just saw what they say, I'd forget it, never heard of aliphatic being used that way. If you mixed the glue with some sawdust it would make sense. But not the way they say. Anyway it would do no harm to do so, that's your choice... As I said I'd fill the lerger gaps with some spare wood and the smallaer gaps with sanding sealer.

Ray, if I had gaps greater than 2mm I'd use some wood to fill it. Better than ani filler.

JL
 

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#23
I've read the italiasn and french instructions and there is a mistranslation. What they mean is to dilute the glue with water and then apply on the planking. This helps the planks to better glue to each other. The aim is to let the glue enter between the planks to "block between them the planks" (that's the translation).

Being so, it makes some sense although I'd forget it.

Regards

JL
 

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Bazzg,
I am unsure as to the directions but I believe that when you mix the glue with 30% water, it is used to fill in any gaps between planks and acts like a bonding agent for the putty to adhere to. Depending on the size of the gaps will help you determine which item to use. If you have gaps in your planking greater then 2mm I would use the watered down glue to help fill the gaps because this mixture will be thicker then regular sanding sealer. Once the glue has dried thoroughly, then you would apply minimum putty because you have basically filled in the majority of the gaps with the glue mixture. I hope this helps.

Ray
Thanks no the biggest gaps are prob 1mm maybe less, which is why i thought if i just use sand and seal then the wood filler then sand again this would do let me know please
 

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Hi
Like some one has said, why on earth would you use diluted glue over the top of your first planking (I take it it is the first planking).
Just fill your gaps with a good wood filler, sand down, wipe over with a damp cloth to remove the dust.
When you have finished your second planking, give it a sand down (be careful not to sand through the second planking) dust off wipe with damp cloth, apply 1 coat of sanding sealer, then a light sand and apply 2nd coat of sanding sealer then finish with 2-3 coats of varnish.

If you wish to use oil on the hull I dont think you need to put sanding sealer, I have never used oil for the hull so may be some one can help you with that one.

Denis.
 

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Hi
Like some one has said, why on earth would you use diluted glue over the top of your first planking (I take it it is the first planking).
Just fill your gaps with a good wood filler, sand down, wipe over with a damp cloth to remove the dust.
When you have finished your second planking, give it a sand down (be careful not to sand through the second planking) dust off wipe with damp cloth, apply 1 coat of sanding sealer, then a light sand and apply 2nd coat of sanding sealer then finish with 2-3 coats of varnish.

If you wish to use oil on the hull I dont think you need to put sanding sealer, I have never used oil for the hull so may be some one can help you with that one.

Denis.
Many thanks was going ti do this as i could not see point as i say gaps are tiny anyway
 

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Hi Bazzg
Sand as smooth as you can without thinning wood to much. Level and fill holes / dents with wood putty or wood filler ( Elmers Water based is best as dries hard and sands well. . It is more important to ty and get rid of bumbs & dips as they will be visible after 2nd layer Babys bottom smooth!. Fill sand/Fill Sand etc. Make . Sanding sealer is used to fill in the porous holes in wood before varnishing. As the lower hull is coppered and the top painted, this will be unnessary. You can use that or mat varnish on final un coated wood, but as nearly all the Victory is painted it will not be nessesary. For the layer below the coppering you can paint it with a primer.
 
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