Modelship Dockyard - New Kit [Modelship Dockyard] PoF H.M.S. Enterprize 1774, the 1/48 version!

AllanKP69 said:
Hi Alex
I could never afford a kit when I started into wooden ship models so I was relegated to scratch building. I learned to do my own research starting with libraries back in the 70's and accumulate tools, usually used, one at a time. If I spend money on a kit now, the Admiral will likely question why I have a shop full of
tools. :) This kit looks so good though that maybe a change would be interesting but for me would still include a LOT of study of every dimension compared to the contemporary sources.


The Pomona (28), 1778 was an Enterprize class 28 but there was the Pomone, (44) 1794 that ran aground in the Islands of Jersey. Interesting that there is a drawing of five or six of her midship frames after the wreck which is below. There was also the Leda Class Pomone (38) 1805. There may be more ships name Pomone and Pomona. From the dates in your attachments and assuming the spelling is correct I am guessing he was on the Pomone (44) not the Pomona. It has to be really interesting to have this kind of family history. With a relative that served in the RN back then, have you done any research into the various archives in Kew or RMG for more information? Even the London Times can be a great source if you enjoy doing this kind of research.
Allan

While the below is a wrecked midship section, the waterways, knees, wales, planking, limberboards and other details are interesting.

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Allan,
I have done a LOT of family research in London and Kew and really enjoy it. I also have a lot of family correspondence, bible with names, etc. My English side of the family are mostly from Cornwall. They were either churchmen, or military - mostly Army, a few RN.
Lt. Cardew's sister was married to a young Ensign of the 28th Regiment of foot, William Mountsteven, who carried the King's flag at Waterloo. His unit is depicted on a very famous painting by Lady Gray of the 28th Regiment's square under attack at Waterloo. He was wounded there, and later became a Major General. Another of Octavious' brothers also became a Lt General, commander of the British Army's Engineers. Anyway, you may be right about the ship. The last ships he served on were all ships of the line...The only sure way to know will be to look at individual ships' histories and crew lists, which I have not done for Octavius Cardew.
How can we help to convince your Admiral that you need the 1:48 Enterprise ?
Thanks
Alex R
 
Alex
Right now I have golf trip to Scotland in the works for 2026 with a bunch of golf buddies, a fishing trip back to Loreto, BCS to meet up with old friends from the West Coast USA for this coming August so another big expense may not sit well. :( At least building the model would last longer than the other two, many times over.
Allan
 
Keef said:
Got my Enterprise today. Well worth the wait . . .What a beauty!! Well done Modelship Dockyard. First impressions the quality of the materials are excellent and my experience with their Blandford kit tells me the accuracy of the parts will be excellent too. Can't wait to make a start on this fantastic looking project
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Post some pics, please!
 
AllanKP69 said:
With this looking to be a popular build, if anyone wants a copy of a transcription of the original contract from the 18th century, let me know and I can attach it here or email it. It is 28 pages with all her scantlings.
Allan
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That would be great!
 
Here you go. Thought a PDF would be easier than trying to cut and paste 28 pages. Keep in mind the spellings, abbreviations, punctuation, etc. are as transcribed from the original. This was for the Aurora, sister to Enterprize so there MAY be some slight differences. As I could not find the actual contract for Enterprise herself this is arguably the best thing available. The contemporary drawings in high resolution are available at WikiCommons as most folks know and can be downloaded for free. Care needs to be taken to use the profiles for her original design as there are also drawings of her profile when she was converted to a receiving ship unless you want to build the receiving ship instead of the fighting ship. :)
Allan
 

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AllanKP69 said:
Here you go. Thought a PDF would be easier than trying to cut and paste 28 pages. Keep in mind the spellings, abbreviations, punctuation, etc. are as transcribed from the original. This was for the Aurora, sister to Enterprize so there MAY be some slight differences. As I could not find the actual contract for Enterprise herself this is arguably the best thing available. The contemporary drawings in high resolution are available at WikiCommons as most folks know and can be downloaded for free. Care needs to be taken to use the profiles for her original design as there are also drawings of her profile when she was converted to a receiving ship unless you want to build the receiving ship instead of the fighting ship. :)
Allan
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Thank you. :)
 
Keef said:
don´t pretend to understand a lot of it
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A good list of terms is a good thing to have around. The oldest ones describe what the items are but if we are not familiar with what term to look for the lists may not be the easiest to use. The "explanation of the terms" in David Steel's The Elements and Practice of Naval Architecture for the ship and the explanations in his The Elements and Practice of Rigging and Seamanship and Illustrated Glossary of Ship and Boat Terms are three great sources,, but there are others. Maybe some member will put together a single complete list from multiple sources for anyone to use if making sawdust gets boring.

If anyone can recommend additional published lists of terms and definitions from the 17th-early 19th centuries that would be fantastic.

Allan
 
Forgot to mention Paasch's illustrated marine dictionary in English, French and German. I have not seen this book but have heard positive comments in the past.
Allan

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Corsair said:
I have started working on the construction frame a little bit. I'm quite impressed.. Very little sanding is needed for assembly and everything is going together well.
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That's great and very encouraging. Will you be starting a build log?
 
Ok @everyone, I found a small error in the instructions in step 3 for building the construction slip.
On one side it shows (the same for both the A and B half) parts 10 and 11 put together in a T cross-section and installed in the middle outside of the frame (this is the correct installation I believe.
On the other side, it shows part 11 being installed at the top edge of the outside of the frame (I believe this is incorrect)
The step does not show a part 12 anywhere. I believe that part 12 is what goes along the top outside edge of the construction frame.

Otherwise, as I mentioned to Keef earlier, all the parts are a very good fit with a very small amount of manual sanding.

I hope that helps. :)
 
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