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NORSKE LOVE - Billing Boats 1:75 scale

Ok, I am finally VERY happy with the walls! ;)
I opted to add some trim, that I profiled, to the bottom of the walls between the column bases. It has more continuity and flows well. I matched the wood and stain of the columns.
Here is picture prior to stain so you can see where they were added…
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Now after stain and clear…
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Now back to deck planking…;)

Ps - The Lion is quiet! I think he likes it! :p
 
Dean62 said:
Ok, I am finally VERY happy with the walls! ;)
I opted to add some trim, that I profiled, to the bottom of the walls between the column bases. It has more continuity and flows well. I matched the wood and stain of the columns.
Here is picture prior to stain so you can see where they were added…
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The trim is a very nice addition. But now the panels, without any detail, look a little blank in comparison...
Still, hats off!
 
RDN1954 said:
The trim is a very nice addition. But now the panels, without any detail, look a little blank in comparison...
Still, hats off!
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In all fairness, I did test a trim piece in the inset panels. I didn’t try to get fancy and bevel it or anything, I was just testing the idea.
To me it looks too busy and takes away from it.
Sometimes less is more. There is so much trim around them, they need to be plain IMO for balance.
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It’s also worth noting all the trim is pear wood. And I believe the panels being the provided plywood, is what is making them seem out of place. If I had used pear wood, I think it would all tie in better. At this point I can only consider changing the stain. Because adding more trim in the panels will only make it look too busy for me. So I’m going to give it some time, because there will be other wood, ie gratings, railings, stairs, that may help them blend in. So I’m going to be patient and get further in the build before I change anything else. ;)
 
Here is an example of 16th century block paneling for reference…
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As you can see, you could add carvings. But to me that seems out of place on external walls of an open deck.
In conclusion, my goal was to make the plain panels more interesting from an architectural perspective. But still reflect 16th or 17th century architecture, and at the same time keep in mind it’s on a ships external wall. What I have done may already be too elaborate. So to add more to it, would be worse than leaving the panels plain IMO.
At least that’s my logic. However I’m open to anyone else’s logic, because I’m in uncharted territory and making it up as I go…lol. I have strayed from the plans and instructions and embellished the walls using artistic license! But I had a goal in mind…. ;)
 
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Dean62 said:
Here is an example of 16th century block paneling for reference…
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As you can see, you could add carvings. But to me that seems out of place on external walls of an open deck.
In conclusion, my goal was to make the plain panels more interesting from an architectural perspective. But still reflect 16th or 17th century architecture, and at the same time keep in mind it’s on a ships external wall. What I have done may already be too elaborate. So to add more to it, would be worse than leaving the panels plain IMO.
At least that’s my logic. However I’m open to anyone else’s logic, because I’m in uncharted territory and making it up as I go…lol. I have strayed from the plans and instructions and embellished the walls using artistic license! But I had a goal in mind…. ;)
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Sometimes it's worth to think things through, or let one's ideas mature...
On the beautiful paneling, indeed this is a very exquisite example of interior decorating in the days long gone. This is not something one would use on warships or merchant ships; they were more purpose built, although, when looking at all the wood carving around those ships one might wonder.
A few posts back I enclosed some pictures of the Batavia, showing "butt joined" paneling and a "lapjoint" panel. I think that's what one could expect on ships of that era.
At the same time, I agree with you that sometimes less is more.
Eagerly awaiting your next updates ánd surprises. (Christmas as well, to be honest, can't wait to get my hands on the Bluenose...)
 
Dean62 said:
Here is an example of 16th century block paneling for reference…
View attachment 265601

As you can see, you could add carvings. But to me that seems out of place on external walls of an open deck.
In conclusion, my goal was to make the plain panels more interesting from an architectural perspective. But still reflect 16th or 17th century architecture, and at the same time keep in mind it’s on a ships external wall. What I have done may already be too elaborate. So to add more to it, would be worse than leaving the panels plain IMO.
At least that’s my logic. However I’m open to anyone else’s logic, because I’m in uncharted territory and making it up as I go…lol. I have strayed from the plans and instructions and embellished the walls using artistic license! But I had a goal in mind…. ;)
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I didn’t know you had such a room in your house :oops:
The extra insirt on the left panel is indeed ‘to much’. For the rest it is now a nice combination!
Regards, Peter
 
RDN1954 said:
Sometimes it's worth to think things through, or let one's ideas mature...
On the beautiful paneling, indeed this is a very exquisite example of interior decorating in the days long gone. This is not something one would use on warships or merchant ships; they were more purpose built, although, when looking at all the wood carving around those ships one might wonder.
A few posts back I enclosed some pictures of the Batavia, showing "butt joined" paneling and a "lapjoint" panel. I think that's what one could expect on ships of that era.
At the same time, I agree with you that sometimes less is more.
Eagerly awaiting your next updates ánd surprises. (Christmas as well, to be honest, can't wait to get my hands on the Bluenose...
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Keep in mind your examples from the Batavia were used on Dutch ships, which differ from most, and this is a Dano-Norwegian ship. So I am trying to stick with the style that was on this ship, which was block panels on the walls. I just tried to make them more ornate. ;)
 
Peter Voogt said:
I didn’t know you had such a room in your house :oops:
The extra insirt on the left panel is indeed ‘to much’. For the rest it is now a nice combination!
Regards, Peter
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No room like that in my house! The Admiral would never go for that! :p I just showed the picture as an example of how elaborate some of the old architecture was.
Thank you for your input, I appreciate it!
 
Dean62 said:
Keep in mind your examples from the Batavia were used on Dutch ships, which differ from most, and this is a Dano-Norwegian ship. So I am trying to stick with the style that was on this ship, which was block panels on the walls. I just tried to make them more ornate. ;)
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Admittedly, I didn't do any research on this topic. What I do know is that the shipbuilders in Northern Europe influenced one another to some extent. See the Wasa, for instance, designed and build by a Dutchman. Also, aquite a few Norwegians were sailors on Dutch ships, so it's reasonable to assume transfer of knowledge between the two nations.
Yet, I thoroughly enjoy your build and the way you try to build a model as authentic as you can reasonably get it.
 
RDN1954 said:
Admittedly, I didn't do any research on this topic. What I do know is that the shipbuilders in Northern Europe influenced one another to some extent. See the Wasa, for instance, designed and build by a Dutchman. Also, aquite a few Norwegians were sailors on Dutch ships, so it's reasonable to assume transfer of knowledge between the two nations.
Yet, I thoroughly enjoy your build and the way you try to build a model as authentic as you can reasonably get it.
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I see your point Johan, however the Norske Love ship designer was Norwegian, and the shipwrights were most likely Danish and Norwegian...and who knows after that...lol. ;)
As far as authentic goes, for me it's always been about visual representation, more than historical accuracy. I have been using the term Artistic License since my first build log, and trust me... I use plenty of it! And when there are unknowns, and there are plenty, then I can do whatever I want and who can dispute? :p
 
Dean62 said:
As far as authentic goes, for me it's always been about visual representation, more than historical accuracy.
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For any of the replicas, build in the Netherlands applies that there are virtually no detailed build plans available. It is said it was all in the head of the buildmaster. Once the length and width of the ship was established, all other dimensions followed. The only tangible information we have are the painting of the Dutch masters and purchasing documents. So for any build AL-FI plays it's part. And anything ending up in our living rooms need to be attractive to look at, to avoid the Admiral veto.
 
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