SORRY"Victory" refers to "Victory Models", who make a kit for HMS Revenge.
SORRY"Victory" refers to "Victory Models", who make a kit for HMS Revenge.
SORRYVictory in this case is referring to the maker of the other model not the actual ship.
Amati Models - Revenge 1577 - Victory Models by Amati
Many modelers tend to want to display contrary things like having the guns run out mixed with anchors being weighed or capstan arms in place, or hanging the sails in a position meant to dry them and not provide propulsion . The modeler is trying to display the ship in several modes of operation to show the various features of the model, and they frequently make no sense. The capstan bars should really not be installed without the hundred men manning the capstan, but modelers display them anyway.Deck and Hull fittings
This stage of a build I find the most enjoyable. There is a variety of tasks - cannon, gratings, gun port lids, chain plates etc with relatively little repetetive work. That said, there is just enough repetition to hone a technique and become more efficient e.g. making gun tackles. Time now to move on to the masts with the dreaded ratlines looming.
As an aside:
1) According to a web search, belaying pins are first referenced in 1745 so perhaps they should not appear on this and many other models.
2) Most models are made with guns run out ready for action so why do some have capstan bars fitted at the same time?
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Good job and look forward to see how you go with the rigging.Deck and Hull fittings
This stage of a build I find the most enjoyable. There is a variety of tasks - cannon, gratings, gun port lids, chain plates etc with relatively little repetetive work. That said, there is just enough repetition to hone a technique and become more efficient e.g. making gun tackles. Time now to move on to the masts with the dreaded ratlines looming.
As an aside:
1) According to a web search, belaying pins are first referenced in 1745 so perhaps they should not appear on this and many other models.
2) Most models are made with guns run out ready for action so why do some have capstan bars fitted at the same time?
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Yes, they do. I have informed you of this several times and have many downloaded.Useful Hack
OcCre kindly provide a pdf of the plans and instructions for their kits. The masts and spars are on a sheet with 1:1 scale. I find it difficult to find clear space on my workbench to spread the paper sheets so a screen display is much more convenient. Scrolling is much easier than spreading another sheet. I have also found a widget that displays a ruler on screen to overlay the pdf. This can be moved with the mouse and switched between vertical and horizontal. Both pdf and ruler can be adjusted to get the scales coordinated. The picture below shows this combination being used to measure the posiutions of blocks on a yard arm.
Aside: One of my most useful tools is provided by the nails on my thumb and forefinger. Unfortunately they need to be trimmed now and then which renders them less useful for a few days.
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Keep an eye on your shrouds as you do ratlines. Without forestays, the masts may start leaning rearward if the shrouds get tighter during ratlining. You should at least rig a temporary forestay while installing shrouds to keep the mast in position. That way, you can tension your shrouds proper without bending your mast, and take the forestay off after your are done. The mast may flex rearward a bit when you do that, but it will go back to the right position when you rig the permanent forestay.Rigging sequence.
In previous models I have followed a fairly conventional sequence when doing the rigging: 1) assemble and fit complete masts 2) Standing rigging 3) Yards with or withouut sails. However, I have found that some of the standing rigging restricts access to the bitts and pin racks that receive the ends of the many halyards, lifts, clewlines and buntlines that are subsequently fitted. Especially hindering are the fore stays. Another issue is that my workbench, like many others, has a lot of small tools and fittings at the back. Reaching these without catching the t'gallant forestays is something at which I often fail. If I remember to avoid them when reaching forward then short term memory issues mean that I am likely to catch them when Iwithdraw my arm with an acquired tool.
So, I have decided to defer the fitting of forestays.
This means that I do not need to fit completed masts. I can start with just the lower masts and fit the shrouds (not a hindrance) and the yards and sails of the courses. (picture 1 below). Most of the running rigging for the yard and sail can be added - though not the braces which route via forestays.
Also, I can assemble the top masts on the bench to be added later. The second picture shows the fore topmast being rigged. The unvarnished dowel is simulation of the top of the foremast. The crow's nest it temporarily pinned to the board. I might even add the topsail yard and sail with associated running rigging before I fit the whole assembly.
So far, so good. If I discover that this is a stupid idea I will report why in a future post.
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Completely correct. The stays are there to support the masts. the former should do as must as possible with the yards-with or without sail -outside the ship (DRESSING THE YARDS) when the time comes with the yards dressed YOU only have to add the yards to the masts. there will be areas where there will be difficulties. many difficulties come from -according to instruction -are inserted the decks far too early.Kee an eye on your shrouds as you do ratlines. Without forestays, the masts may start leaning rearward if the shrouds get tighter during ratlining. You should at least rig a temporary forestay while installing shrouds to keep the mast in position. That way, you can tension your shrouds proper without bending your mast, and take the forestay off after your are done. The mast may flex rearward a bit when you do that, but it will go back to the right position when you rig the permanent forestay.
LOOKS GOOD AND CORRECT TO METopmasts.
I have followed my decision to assemble the topmast and t'gallant mast assemblies in isolation and encountered no problems. It offered a number of advantages: tying the ratlines at bench level did not involve arm-aching reaching upwards; the simple jig was easier to turn round than the entire ship. The first photo below shows a completed assembly with main top and togallant masts, sails and yards. The running rigging is omitted at this stage apart from the halliards holding the yards in place. The sails have been hair-sprayed and blown dry. The second picture shows the equivalent assembly for the foremast after installation with the running rigging added. Belaying all the lifts, clewlines and buntlines was simplified by having delayed fitting the forestays. Braces will have to wait a bit longer.
In previous models I have generally added ratlines working upwards from the dead-eyes. When tying the half hitch components of the clove hitches the needle has to be passed around the shroud and UNDER the bight of thread from the previous hich. this means that the loop has to be lifted. As the tatlines reach the point where the shrouds converge it is all too easy to tie two together unintentionally. I have now taken to tying the ratlines from top down which eliminates these problems. The needle is passed round the shroud and OVER the bight of thread which is obligingly hanging down. The needle can be passed round the shroud low down (where the spacing is wide) then run up to the level of the current ratline. This sequence made the adding of ratlines much easier. The third photo (a bit blurred I'm afraid) shows the use of a couple of simple spacers: tpairs of strips glued together at one end. The spacers control the separation of the ratline and preserve the spacing of the shrouds. The starting end of the ratline is temprarily secured by passing it through a hole in the spacer and pushing in a belaying pin. Half hitches formed below the lower space ar pulled taut just under it. Longer spacers are used where the shrouds are wider (e.g. main mast shrouds) with a securing clip at itheir open end.
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